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    How come ENTJs are so mean for telling other people what they think and yet, everyone loves to tell ENTJs their negative thoughts about them? This I find to be pretty funny, in an ironic way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    How come ENTJs are so mean for telling other people what they think and yet, everyone loves to tell ENTJs their negative thoughts about them? This I find to be pretty funny, in an ironic way.
    You know you're kind of right in a certain way for the ENTJ that doesn't resort to bullying. I should clarify that these sentiments are mostly based on a certain type of ENTJ which trolls on the net or in real life.

    I've met ENTJ's that are entirely neutral and kind of talk and act like spocl from star trek instead of the borgs - I like to think of myself in this light.

    But hypothetically speaking, when an ENTJ does bully people they may say something to the effect which demoralizes the other in a psychologically harmful way.

    As for people teaming up on ENTJ's sometimes, I've seen this too, and I've seen people really get under their skin as well, and they are certainly as susceptible to bullying as they are competent at bullying, as with any type right?

    ENTJ's particularly are prone to blackmail as they forge blind loyalties - inferior FI.
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    I've met plenty of non-ENTJ bullies. I don't think its type related just symptomatic of someone spinning out of control in life. I wouldn't use Reddit as a comparison as that site appears to be the domain of less sociable people anyway with rather strange and fixed ideas on life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    How come ENTJs are so mean for telling other people what they think and yet, everyone loves to tell ENTJs their negative thoughts about them? This I find to be pretty funny, in an ironic way.
    this thread is on the topic. so yeah not even the same as to what I'm referring to. which is and I have happened. is an ENTJ telling me what was wrong with me without me bringing it up. this thread is on ENTJ bullying. if it was about cuddeling it wouldn't have been brought up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    this thread is on the topic. so yeah not even the same as to what I'm referring to. which is and I have happened. is an ENTJ telling me what was wrong with me without me bringing it up. this thread is on ENTJ bullying. if it was about cuddeling it wouldn't have been brought up.
    So if one person decides to start the 'honesty', it's perfectly acceptable for others to dog pile on? Funny, could have sworn that's a form of bullying too.

    Frankly, you can say what you want and it won't bother me. But I had to point out the hypocrisy since it was too funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    So if one person decides to start the 'honesty', it's perfectly acceptable for others to dog pile on? Funny, could have sworn that's a form of bullying too.

    Frankly, you can say what you want and it won't bother me. But I had to point out the hypocrisy since it was too funny.
    you're accusing me of bullying? in a thread where the op asks why ENTJs bullying and i said I didn't have experience with them doing that, but more of what i said which could be mistook for bullying? I never said any of what you're accusing me of. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE FUCKING SUBJECT! I gave my pov, you twisting my words around to fit your fucking view of the world is fucked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    this thread is on the topic. so yeah not even the same as to what I'm referring to. which is and I have happened. is an ENTJ telling me what was wrong with me without me bringing it up. this thread is on ENTJ bullying. if it was about cuddeling it wouldn't have been brought up.
    With this in mind I would like to say that it's pretty much a common thread that many toxic ENTJ's leave others feeling off, disgusted, or something of that nature. It doesn't take much research to find this out. Go on youtube and type in ENTJ and you'll find a bunch of first impressions or general impressions of....

    "Working with an ENTJ sucks,"

    "Entj's leave me feeling shitty,"

    "ENTJ's mean well but they come across as jack asses,"

    "I guess they're kind of cool off of a work."

    The problem is ENTJ's are not readily predisposed to individuation until mid life.

    I'm speaking generally here. It's not just one site. Most ENTJ shark spots for lack of better words are considered toxic waste dumps.

    That being said for as many Jerk ENTJ's I've found on the internet I've found as many peaceful and kind ones in real life and someitmes on the net again.

    I believe though that most ENTJ's on the net troll because even going on a message board tends to be an unconcious drive for the ENTJ unless they are really interested in psychology, which I've discovered most ENTJ's on message boards are not. They are biased towards using the board for their own egotistical needs hence the names, "retard," ""moron" and the condescending attitude of, "me making you feel shitty is good for you," with no respect for the subjective state of the individual.

    This again has been brought to my attention is a result of a profound lack of self perhaps even so much to imply narcissism - I'm very thankful that many of you have responded with such great input because I have actually been illuminated on many of my own shortcomings too.

    My friends always parot, "the ends justify the means," when I'm telling them my ideas and I finally understand how even I, someone who portends to be brutally honest, comes off as a jerk.

    This is good thought because I'm finally realizing what real ego inflation is.

    EGO INFLATION is pretending to know what is good for someone else under the pretense of objectivity in almost every case no matter what. This is why even psychoanlysts get the patient to come to their own ideas and are simply there as guides, and even an ENTJ psychoanalyst will respect the subjective inner world of the person.

    Most ENTJ's of this caliber, the egotistical one, act like their advice is needed that if you don't listen you'll drown or something. The truth is ENTJ's are no omniscient. Unless they are sinking on a submarine, as I have learned, they should bite their tongue and just chill.

    There is another possiblity however. It could be that the narcissistic person is drawn to want to identify with ENTJ and therefore most ENTJ's on the net are not ENTJ's but people with npd feigning as ENTJ's. This would make more sense. An ENTJ would not go on a message board and muffle other people. They would want as much good and bad information as possible since both types of info are valuable for different reasons. But even this notion is presumptuous, I'll admit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GarrotTheThief View Post
    With this in mind I would like to say that it's pretty much a common thread that many ENTJ's leave others feeling off, disgusted, or something of that nature. It doesn't take much research to find this out. Go on youtube and type in ENTJ and you'll find a bunch of first impressions or general impressions of....

    "Working with an ENTJ sucks,"

    "Entj's leave me feeling shitty,"

    "ENTJ's mean well but they come across as jack asses,"

    "I guess they're kind of cool off of a work."

    The problem is ENTJ's are not readily predisposed to individuation until mid life.

    I'm speaking generally here. It's not just one site. Most ENTJ shark spots for lack of better words are considered toxic waste dumps.

    That being said for as many Jerk ENTJ's I've found on the internet I've found as many peaceful and kind ones in real life and someitmes on the net again.

    I believe though that most ENTJ's on the net troll because even going on a message board tends to be an unconcious drive for the ENTJ unless they are really interested in psychology, which I've discovered most ENTJ's on message boards are not. They are biased towards using the board for their own egotistical needs hence the names, "retard," ""moron" and the condescending attitude of, "me making you feel shitty is good for you," with no respect for the subjective state of the individual.

    This again has been brought to my attention is a result of a profound lack of self perhaps even so much to imply narcissism - I'm very thankful that many of you have responded with such great input because I have actually been illuminated on many of my own shortcomings too.

    My friends always parot, "the ends justify the means," when I'm telling them my ideas and I finally understand how even I, someone who portends to be brutally honest, comes off as a jerk.

    This is good thought because I'm finally realizing what real ego inflation is.

    EGO INFLATION is pretending to know what is good for someone else under the pretense of objectivity in almost every case no matter what.
    yeah the number of entj's I like or at least have no emotions towards far out number the ones i dislike.
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    Here's another thing I noticed about the cold Machiavellian style of ENTJ bullying which is prominent in a small minority of them. They are one of the only types who will go through every legitimate means to debase you, humiliate you, and render you unable to function if you prevent them or seem like an obstacle in their path towards victory.

    Most other types will be content with telling a joke at your expense. It's only the ENTJ who has these outbursts of deep seeded revenge which pulsates like a binary star. It reminds me of the the entire play of MacBeth which is the proverbial tail of success at all costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    So if one person decides to start the 'honesty', it's perfectly acceptable for others to dog pile on? Funny, could have sworn that's a form of bullying too.

    Frankly, you can say what you want and it won't bother me. But I had to point out the hypocrisy since it was too funny.
    Everyone loves honesty but when honesty becomes a jihad or a crusade to get one's subjective way it's scary and off putting and leaves people somewhat feeling ill inside. I've experienced this first hand as a young teenager always putting objectivity before my personal bonds and I can attest that it is not a good way to live. We live as people not robots therefore we can never be entirely honest or objective.

    You don't sound like the type who's a bully though. This is more about a small minority of eNTJ's who bully people online or in real life. We're just fleshing out the bullying style of an ENTJ vs. another mbti. All MBTI's have bullies you know.

    Remember the truth is a sword to be used only with respect and a sense of sacredness...not as a way to inflict harm.

    Cold objective facts can be used to hurt as well as heal. Yes I know this doesn't sound like something an ENTJ would say unless the entj had precognitive dreams and a nde which alter his views on what is empirical - and other intense experiences which many people have and can deepen the personality.
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