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    Quote Originally Posted by lulabelle View Post
    Have any of you ENTJs ever dated a 4w5 INFP? curious.
    I knew an INTJ who dated what I'm sure was a 4w5 INFP - he went nuts when she dumped him after three years - started using hard drugs and basically dropped out of life. She's so much of an "out there" INFP that I look like a TJ compared to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blahblahbob View Post
    I knew an INTJ who dated what I'm sure was a 4w5 INFP - he went nuts when she dumped him after three years - started using hard drugs and basically dropped out of life. She's so much of an "out there" INFP that I look like a TJ compared to her.
    wait, who dumped who? did the INTJ dump the INFP or the other way around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lulabelle View Post
    wait, who dumped who? did the INTJ dump the INFP or the other way around?
    She (FP) dumped him (TJ) - TJ's get their mind made up about something they stick to it.

    I don't even know how the two of them got together in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blahblahbob View Post
    She (FP) dumped him (TJ) - TJ's get their mind made up about something they stick to it.

    I don't even know how the two of them got together in the first place.
    you mean that the TJ was stuck to the relationship so when the INFP broke up with him it sent him on a tailspin?

    LOL i feel like INFPs are generally the dumpees so it's interesting to hear of a dumper

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    Quote Originally Posted by lulabelle View Post
    you mean that the TJ was stuck to the relationship so when the INFP broke up with him it sent him on a tailspin?

    LOL i feel like INFPs are generally the dumpees so it's interesting to hear of a dumper
    I got dumped 1/3 times. But none of them were TJ's

    The guy was smart but a real big ass to me (for no reason other than he liked to play bully) so I feel only partially like a jerk for not feeling bad about him losing complete control of himself.

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    I dunno, are entjs really bullying or are they looking for someone to stand up against them and call them out on their bullshit, lol?

    I work with a delightful young entj. We argue constantly. At first I was hesitant but then he said he likes be corrected when wrong, so I give it my all nowadays. He is my knight as he makes my moral visions real and helps me take care of the people I care about. He isn't a bully, but just a force of nature- you have to be strong enough to stand firm.
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    ENTJ's are exceptionally charismatic and natural-born leaders. Combine that with generally being fairly cold and ruthless (something that is more common in Analyst types than I would care to admit), and you have a lot of possibility for their gifts to be misused. Not to mention that a fair number of sociopaths are ENTJs.
    Of course, many ENTJs take the opposite side of the spectrum and become brilliant and highly beneficial leaders.
    I only know a couple of people that I believe to be ENTJ; one is indeed a bully that delights in small, petty "torments" against me and other "nerds" (while completely failing to recognize that we're far too strong to be hurt by his remarks (don't ask me how he hasn't picked up on this )). The other is a person that I have been longtime friends with and has a strong respect for just about everyone around him (except for overly authoritarian teachers, a trait which he and I share).
    What I'm trying to say is, don't judge an entire personality type off of a few of the bad apples. If you judged all ENFPs by Adolf Hitler (who was, surprisingly, not a sociopath , but was certainly mentally unhealthy in the extreme), then you'd totally miss out on a good number of mentally healthy and highly moral ENFPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarrotTheThief View Post
    Visit any forum and the ENTJ section tends to have some of the most rude, condescending comments.

    The big question is why do ENTJ's troll using psychological warfare?

    The big answer of course is because they have so little control over their immediate environment that they need to go online and assert control by reducing another in that environment.

    They commit acts of existential cannibalism because they do not admit that they are bullying but it is objectively clear. They will passive aggressively refer to you as a "retard," or a "moron," for not understanding that their "objectivity" is good for you.

    In real life, the ENTJ will bully as well, but usually will run into some trouble by 20 and will have to soften and adjust. If the ENTJ still believes they are always objective even though humans are fallible and creatures of subjectivity then the ENTJ has an inflated and weak ego which may imply you are dealing with a legitimate narcissist.

    This is a thread for asking an ENTJ why ENTJ's bully. You probably will not find another thread like this. You'll notice that if you go to another site such as reddit and ask this question in the ENTJ section you will be immediately flamed and told that the person in question is not a bully. False. Everyone has bullied at one point in their life. There are degrees of bullying of course and ENTJ's have a particular style of afflicting others when they are in their inferior mode of operation...that is when they think they are so objective they become tyrants and cruelly subjective and harm in their environment with false pretenses of "helping you."
    Hmm... Maybe it isn't just about the type. A lot of factors come in to play like the environment they live in. I've noticed that some entjs feel incredibly weak deep down. I was in a relationship with one and I have to say, you guys are super cool! The one thing I will critique is that they don't like feeling vulnerable. They always like to be the strong ones and protect people. I've also noticed that most entjs get into relationships with "weaker" people so that they can "show them the ropes" and protect them. It is both sweet yet controlling, but if the partner is intuitive, they will sense the entjs need to be in control, and probably figure out that they too, just like everybody, is vulnerable. I'm sorry if this offends any one of you! Have a wonderful evening!
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    And that has made all the difference."
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    I can only speak for myself, but I don't really bully people; I had a tendency to be brusque with people, which tends to sour both my personal and professional relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Name View Post
    I can only speak for myself, but I don't really bully people; I had a tendency to be brusque with people, which tends to sour both my personal and professional relationships.
    And it's not bullying. Most feelers kinda take it the wrong way as bullying. They just have to understand where you're coming from. I have like 5 ENTJ besties and this used to happen and all you entjs have to do is clarify what you mean. Although, they now get that I'm a crybaby lol HAKUNA MATATA (listening to the lion king soundtrack rn)
    "...Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
    I doubted if I should ever come back.
    I shall be telling this with a sigh
    Somewhere ages and ages hence:
    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
    I took the one less traveled by,
    And that has made all the difference."
    -The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost

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