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    This may be heavily subjective, but "FWB" situations in which both parties are attracted to the other's body and mind are unrealistic... or at least unsustainable (in my eyes). If I were your INTJ friend and began to develop feelings for you it would cause intense emotional distress toeing the Friendship line you drew in the sand. I would wonder why you drew it in the first place--which of my qualities made a relationship unappealing? It sounds like lack of communication fueled most of your issues together... I hope you find the heart-to-heart you're looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poki View Post
    Honestly, my take is that women go through life so unsatisfied that a half ass man would cause them to fall head over heels. We need more REAL men in this world. They have been trained to rationalize, look the other way when it comes to truly happy, and settle
    Real men? Seriously? Are we down to that level of boring oversimplification and in/out group blame games.
    "Geh where are the real women who'll cook my meals, be my sex toys and not whine about me working 15h a day to pay for their shoes and other toys that keep them occupied while im out being a real man?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poki View Post
    Honestly, my take is that women go through life so unsatisfied that a half ass man would cause them to fall head over heels. We need more REAL men in this world. They have been trained to rationalize, look the other way when it comes to truly happy, and settle
    Oh Jesus. Not this alpha male shit again. You do know 'male' is a gender not a job title don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chthonic View Post
    Oh Jesus. Not this alpha male shit again. You do know 'male' is a gender not a job title don't you?
    Who said alpha male...don't put words in my mouth. A real man treats a woman good, takes care of her(and I don't mean working long hours . I worked 8-9 hours a day to make sure I spend time with both my son and whoever I am dating
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poki View Post
    Who said alpha male...don't put words in my mouth. A real man treats a woman good, takes care of her(and I don't mean working long hours . I worked 8-9 hours a day to make sure I spend time with both my son and whoever I am dating
    Sorry my bad. I just can't help but match the cliche with #real man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    Real men? Seriously? Are we down to that level of boring oversimplification and in/out group blame games.
    "Geh where are the real women who'll cook my meals, be my sex toys and not whine about me working 15h a day to pay for their shoes and other toys that keep them occupied while im out being a real man?"

    Goes both ways
    I dated an INFP, she treated me like a king. I woke up to back rubs just about every night sex multiple times a day. After we both had a hard days at work she handed me the remote and cooked and cleaned. She treated me like a king. She didnt care about shoes or any of that other crap. She wasnt materialistic. Where are the real women? Single because they dont want to put up with shitty men. Thats not what I am looking for, relationship lasted 3 months. When she handed me the remote I would roam the place looking for something to fix and or work on, sit at the counter and talk while she worked. I am not a person who can just sit and watch TV while someone takes care of everything.

    Why did she say she did it, because I learned who she was and I bent over backwards to help her out when she needed it. I woke up at 6:30 in the morning to go take her dog out and her kids to school when she was sick.

    You know what, this is how women treat me, they treat me different then they treat other men, always have. Because I am not a lazy ass, an asshole, I listen, I spend time, I do things for them. Thats who I am. My next 4 days is helping fix a house for a friend because she ended up with 2 houses because of a divorce and is selling one because she cant make ends meet with 2 house, I will then go to a friends house this weekend that got out of surgery for breast cancer and install a second monitor so she can work from home. Take my son to a birthday party and hang out with him opn sunday. Then next week I will go to my ex-girlfriends moms house to install a GFCI, A fan outside, replace a lock, fix her gate, and some cracks in the wall. She will have dinner made when I get there as a thanks and make sure I dont run out of ice tea. My parents are coming over to my house today while I am at work to help me remodel.

    I create my world the way I want it. I have alot of what I call REAL women in my world, its funny because they are the ones other men dont think are real women. I get treated different because I treat them different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poki View Post
    I dated an INFP, she treated me like a king. I woke up to back rubs just about every night sex multiple times a day. After we both had a hard days at work she handed me the remote and cooked and cleaned. She treated me like a king. She didnt care about shoes or any of that other crap. She wasnt materialistic. Where are the real women? Single because they dont want to put up with shitty men. Thats not what I am looking for, relationship lasted 3 months. When she handed me the remote I would roam the place looking for something to fix and or work on, sit at the counter and talk while she worked. I am not a person who can just sit and watch TV while someone takes care of everything.

    Why did she say she did it, because I learned who she was and I bent over backwards to help her out when she needed it. I woke up at 6:30 in the morning to go take her dog out and her kids to school when she was sick.

    You know what, this is how women treat me, they treat me different then they treat other men, always have. Because I am not a lazy ass, an asshole, I listen, I spend time, I do things for them. Thats who I am. My next 4 days is helping fix a house for a friend because she ended up with 2 houses because of a divorce and is selling one because she cant make ends meet with 2 house, I will then go to a friends house this weekend that got out of surgery for breast cancer and install a second monitor so she can work from home. Take my son to a birthday party and hang out with him opn sunday. Then next week I will go to my ex-girlfriends moms house to install a GFCI, A fan outside, replace a lock, fix her gate, and some cracks in the wall. She will have dinner made when I get there as a thanks and make sure I dont run out of ice tea. My parents are coming over to my house today while I am at work to help me remodel.

    I create my world the way I want it. I have alot of what I call REAL women in my world, its funny because they are the ones other men dont think are real women. I get treated different because I treat them different.

    OFF topic now, back to OP
    And to bring it back on topic. Me and INFP dated for 3 months, the way she treated me lasted for way over a year including benefits until I started dating again. People thought we were dating until they realized I would gladly watch her kids when she wanted to go out on a date with someone else.
    Im out, its been fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poki View Post
    Who said alpha male...don't put words in my mouth. A real man treats a woman good, takes care of her(and I don't mean working long hours . I worked 8-9 hours a day to make sure I spend time with both my son and whoever I am dating
    A real man knows how to treat a woman... So how come ur not married? You mean you're not a "real man' or are there special rules applying to u and not to us mere mortals?
    She wasn't a real woman? Are all women real women and only men have to be "real"?!

    Logic fail.
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    A *real* man sleeps with the woman he dates, and he dates the women he sleeps with. And when a *real* man dates a woman, he sees and builds his future with her.

    I don't care how many cabinets or houses a man can fix for me, or how many rounds of sex every night he gives me for me to see him as a "real" man, because a man who isn't mine or doesn't want to be mine isn't *real*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    A real man knows how to treat a woman... So how come ur not married? You mean you're not a "real man' or are there special rules applying to u and not to us mere mortals?
    She wasn't a real woman? Are all women real women and only men have to be "real"?!

    Logic fail.
    I was married, I am not anymore because I got tired of bitchin and it made me irritable and that was not fair to my son. She agreed to marriage counseling when I was to far gone with the marriage. I want more then she could offer me. I am a touch person and she isn't. I died inside because of it also. Sol I divorced lookjng for someone that worked better with me. She is just a bitchy person, she still bends over backwards for me if I need it, I just don't feel like listening to the bitching that goes along with it. I have a lot of other women around me that will do the same thing without bitching.

    I am not married because I know what I want and Havnt found it yet. Hence why I end up in FWB. I am not so desperate to jump into marriage just because a woman treats me good, I get that from most. I get food cooked for me, I get sex whenever I want, I get a lot of things. Hell I had a FWB that bought me precooked food and sent to my house because it was a long distance FWB and she couldn't cook for me. She bought me most of my kitchen ware and I didn't ask for any of it. I really appreciate it though.
    Im out, its been fun

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