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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    9 screams F, more precisely(but not limited to) SFJ

    Here is a 9 describing himself;



    I agree that INTPs have SFJ in them and that some INTPs act more like 9's than other INTPs, but to have this sort of SFJ attitude as a best definition of self(better than e types that clearly show thinking attitude) just means that the person is not an INTP, but some other type(or that the person is an INTP and misidentifies with 9 profile more than others due to some life circumstances that has forced him to go deeper in his SFJ shadow).



    That sounds like propably the most common problem for FJs and i dont think it fits to INTPs that well.
    Fair enough. 9 seems the likely gut fix for INTPs, but I can see how its core typing could be circumstantial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solipsists View Post
    What about the functional hierarchy of INTPs makes E9 unlikely?
    Nothing.

    He doesn't know shit about the enneagram.

    E5 is by far the most common INTP, but there are literally tens of millions of well-functioning INTP 9s in the world.

    I was just at the wedding of a buddy I've known for >20 years who is an INTP e9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    9 screams F, more precisely(but not limited to) SFJ
    Really? I think there are a lot of ISTP e9s
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    There're ISTP 9s, so why would an INTP 9 be so unlikely?

    INTP 9s...low-key, sense of humor is quirky without being dark, gives off a vibe of being more balanced, less prone to inferior-Fe breakouts (breakdowns?), indifference stems more from internal numbing and external disregard but not the coldness one can see with 5s.

    Those are my musings on it anyway. OP, I could see you being an INFP 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Really? I think there are a lot of ISTP e9s
    My best friend's dad, who I've known for 27 of my 30 years, and is basically like my second father, is a blatantly obvious ISTP 9.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbone View Post
    There're ISTP 9s, so why would an INTP 9 be so unlikely?
    Based on the Personality Cafe data, they're just about the same (5% for INTPs, 6% for ISTPs).

    And that's with only ~70% reporting (so probably more like 8/9/10%).

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbone View Post
    INTP 9s...low-key, sense of humor is quirky without being dark, gives off a vibe of being more balanced, less prone to inferior-Fe breakouts (breakdowns?), indifference stems more from internal numbing and external disregard but not the coldness one can see with 5s.
    I actually love the INTP 9s.

    They're way more chill than the 5s.

    When I think of INTP 9s, I think of Abraham Lincoln.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbone View Post
    Those are my musings on it anyway.
    They were pretty spot on.

    The hallmark of the e9 INTPs is that they have way better Fe usage than the e5s.

    And, no, this is not a sign that they are not actually INTPs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbone View Post
    OP, I could see you being an INFP 6.
    Agreed.

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    I didn't think it was uncommon.

    The introverted types in general always seem more likely to score higher as 9, compared to extraverts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urarienev View Post
    The introverted types in general always seem more likely to score higher as 9, compared to extraverts.
    Yup.

    It's 9II.

    I'm pretty sure I know an ENTP 9, tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Yup.

    It's 9II.

    I'm pretty sure I know an ENTP 9, tho.
    9 has the reputation of being an ambiverted type though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    You don't strike me as an INTP. AT ALL.

    You also don't strike me as a 9. At all. With the possible exception that you're an unhealthy 9, who disintegrates into 6. In fact, for a while now, i have been thinking you're probably a 6. Both 4 and 9 are common mistypes for 6.



    I actually made that chart, with @BlackCat's inputs.

    Here is another I made, using data on >10,000 members at Personality Cafe.



    The data there suggests about a 10:1 ratio of e5 INTPs : e9 INTPs.

    And this is about what I had in mind off the top of my head (minimum 4-5:1, likely ~10:1)

    One thing that might skew this data is that e5s might be more prone to foruming than e9s.

    For a good example of an e9 INTP, see @Fluffywolf



    This.



    And this.



    Don't listen to this nonsense.
    Thanks for the response.

    I don't see myself as an INTP either, excluding the fact that I frequently type as it and score high on Ti for an 'INFP'. I've never considered myself as intellectual as INTP e5s, and more or less, INTPs, but the INTP e9 inferior and interior functions are more strengthened and so I thought it could be a stronger possibility since it means the feeling function is heightened. Once again, my initial results were INFP e4, and I tried answering as honest as I could. I don't really relate to type 4s and relate more to e9s now that I think about it (I've settled on type 9 a couple of times, though when I was at the point of giving up and relating to pretty much all types except e8). Tbh I consider myself INFP though most questions, especially in the human metrics test seem to measure 'thinking' more than the aloofness that comes with it that is concerned in other tests. e6? I'm not so sure about that, but I'm glad you have at least some significant impression on me besides being a pretentious douchebag

    As for MBTI again, I know I at least use a lot of Ne. When I write I notice I don't pay attention to one single stream of thought, it tends to bounce around and broaden the context with new loosely related ideas. I occasionally use Ni but it doesn't feel natural at all so that would rule out xSxP. I scored higher on Te than Ti too, so I can definitely see xNFP, more so INFP.

    Love the charts too, of course an NTJ made it lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redbone View Post
    There're ISTP 9s, so why would an INTP 9 be so unlikely?

    INTP 9s...low-key, sense of humor is quirky without being dark, gives off a vibe of being more balanced, less prone to inferior-Fe breakouts (breakdowns?), indifference stems more from internal numbing and external disregard but not the coldness one can see with 5s.

    Those are my musings on it anyway. OP, I could see you being an INFP 6.
    I've read a lot on reddit about IxTPs and there is some information gleaming out there that discusses the gut triad, which are mainly type 9 and how frequently they test as it. I'm pretty sure I know a 9w8 ISTP on top of that.

    I appreciate you've had some thought about my enneagram, but what is it that makes me seem like a e6? I own several books, I think three on the ennegram and I don't relate too much to it. I don't doubt it, just not certain of it. I'd also like to know whether you think I'm a 6w7 or 6w5.
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