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    Default What is your attitude on false beliefs?

    I follow an agnostic way of life. I try to question everything, every info that I take, every word that a person tells me, everything. But at times, for example when a person curses me and tries to doom my success I become over-sensitive about it and begin to fall for it. It usually takes a few hours of deep and thorough analysis to return to my previous, sceptical state of mind. I have come to believe that curses and metaphysical stuff exist in a psychological state. When somebody curses something that you hold dear, you instantly create a "fake belief" that limits you healthy state of mind and leads you to a self-destructive road. So does this happen to you too? When someone says that he will put all his bad energy to work for your destruction does it bother you? Or can you keep your state of mind healthy any time?
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    Indeed, the nocebo and placebo effect are scientifically documented phenomena. The mind is a powerful thing.

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    What do you mean by "trying to doom your success"? I am not sure what you mean by that. I generally don't have people picking me out of a crowd or in the workplace and threatening me and my future. What leads to these kinds of confrontations?

    I generally do see "magic" as more a psychological thing. What people say, what they do, can work in the consciousness and subconsciousness of the target and can become self-fulfilling prophecies; someone says things to undermine us that we accept as true and thus end up undermining us. Or beliefs can lead to perseverence that can lead to something happening that would otherwise have not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    What do you mean by "trying to doom your success"? I am not sure what you mean by that. I generally don't have people picking me out of a crowd or in the workplace and threatening me and my future. What leads to these kinds of confrontations?
    There was a person that I knew, who I frequently criticized for her snobbish behaviour (she was an ESFJ drama queen) and her odd beliefs in occult. So, for revenge, she said that she curses me. I didn't believe it at first, but after some time I thought that metaphysical claims could be uknowable and I started to believe that her curse was real. Nevertheless, an hour later I came to the conclusion that due to the absence of reliable evidence such claims should be doomed as nonexistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALL-HAIL-ME View Post
    There was a person that I knew, who I frequently criticized for her snobbish behaviour (she was an ESFJ drama queen) and her odd beliefs in occult. So, for revenge, she said that she curses me. I didn't believe it at first, but after some time I thought that metaphysical claims could be uknowable and I started to believe that her curse was real. Nevertheless, an hour later I came to the conclusion that due to the absence of reliable evidence such claims should be doomed as nonexistent.
    Okay. I wasn't sure whether you meant metaphorical cursing or real cursing or what exactly.

    I don't think there is any reliable evidence either, especially from someone who you can't perceive as a real "hex queen" of some sort if any such person exists. But I do think our brains can end up believing in stuff that isn't real and end up undermining ourselves.
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    In similar situations... ignoring what was said is the best route. Cause when you start to believe what people say... (in this case... the metaphysical) your mind will find a way to support that belief(example is the God delusion). But it's just as easy to believe in the opposite if the mind works that way.

    Ex. a person says you cant be happy... you can choose to believe in the opposite... that you can be happy. Then your mind will do the work for you in finding happiness around you. Or if you're like me... sometimes I decide to believe in the opposite just for kicks. Cause I don't like listening to other people. It works most of the time.

    Though, it's more realistic to think that you and everyone else have little to no control of anything(so cursing you will make no difference... unless you let it bother you of course.) Bottom line, you can only hope things turn out well(as long as you have given the required effort). If it doesn't, it's not the end of the world. The universe gives you an infinite number of chances to get things right.

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