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[INTJ] healthy/unhealthy INTJ

chubber

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So what would the differences be between a healthy and a unhealthy INTJ be?
 

danseen

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- healthy - accepts that logic is just one part of the human condition.

- unhealthy - is disdainful of others who are not logical, nor value it.
 

Fluffywolf

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So what would the differences be between a healthy and a unhealthy INTJ be?

Many different facets, many different levels.

In a general sense (for any type), healthy is partaking in society while feeling content. Unhealthy is the rest.
 

ahraysee

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- healthy - accepts that logic is just one part of the human condition.

- unhealthy - is disdainful of others who are not logical, nor value it.

I would say this is a great indicator. An INTJ who can recognize, name, and fully own a negative emotion without suppressing it, would be pretty healthy in my book, whereas the unhealthy behavior would be squashing the feeling.

The same concept probably applies to any other type too--"This is how I do it, it is the best way, and you are in some way lesser if you don't do it this way too." could be a sentiment expressed by any unhealthy person, their type determining the supposedly superior behavior in question.
 

Coriolis

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- healthy - accepts that logic is just one part of the human condition.

- unhealthy - is disdainful of others who are not logical, nor value it.
I do both - what does that mean?? Logic is just one part of the human condition, but a very important part, so it is hard to respect people who see no value in it.
 

danseen

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I do both - what does that mean?? Logic is just one part of the human condition, but a very important part, so it is hard to respect people who see no value in it.

yes, because different personalities, cultures and value systems are evil, right?

the importance of logic is context-based. Even as an INTP, I see logic holding relative value. Maybe that's my "P" speaking, I don't know....
 
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Most people here would characterise me as an unhealthy INTJ because I express the negative traits of that type more loudly than the positive ones. I am an extreme example as I make no effort to compensate in an effort to fit in as most people would. I am highly resistant to social conditioning and do not seek the approval of others. That makes me an abnormality as most people would do the opposite, or at least if they didn't they would play along in an effort to work the system. I do neither.
 

Coriolis

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yes, because different personalities, cultures and value systems are evil, right?

the importance of logic is context-based. Even as an INTP, I see logic holding relative value. Maybe that's my "P" speaking, I don't know....
I think much less in terms of good/evil than effective/ineffective. Someone with a disdain for logic will refuse to employ it even when useful. Valuing logic does not require its overapplication. Quite the contrary.
 

danseen

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I think much less in terms of good/evil than effective/ineffective. Someone with a disdain for logic will refuse to employ it even when useful. Valuing logic does not require its overapplication. Quite the contrary.

eh? good and evil don't exist.

i'm simply saying that humans are not strictly logical, nor should we be.
 

Coriolis

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i'm simply saying that humans are not strictly logical, nor should we be.
And I wrote:
it is hard to respect people who see no value in [logic].
It seems there is some middle ground between the two perspectives.
 

danseen

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or you can't get human beings.. good for you, it's not really my issue.

as an INTP, i detest "logical behaviour", I largely act on whim.
 

Sinshred

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healthy = dr tenka (monster) unhealty = hannibal lacter they both doctor in different subject and INTJ of course. But look at how treat their patient and other people.
 
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So what would the differences be between a healthy and a unhealthy INTJ be?

healthy: balanced between inner and outer world
unhealthy: skewed towards inner world or possibly outer world
 
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Unhealthy INTJs retreat into their easiest mode of existence, which is Ni. This in turn leads to a withdrawal from the world, and so Ni & Fi are emphasized, whereas Te & Se are downplayed and ignored. Because the extroverted functions are ignored, they begin to become delusional and and over-involved in their own perceptions whilst rejecting objective data, especially if it contradicts what their introverted functions say. Ni doesn't pick up new data often so the same perceptions are regurgitated. When the extroverted functions are used, they are used terribly and are under great influence of the now-exaggerated introverted functions. Te makes them overly controlling and Se creates aggressiveness and antagonistic behavior, which they may use to act out warped visions created by Ni-Fi. They may become prone to unhealthy sensory habits and violence under the force of inferior Se.
 
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