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    I can think of a few reasons why people would hate INTJs but a lot of them would be based on assumptions made (maybe because of our cold exterior) that most INTJs don't really care about clarifying. We may also come across as condescending but thats just a Dom/aux Te thing

    No. INTJs, like ISTJs, are extremely passive people. Where is this dominating thing coming from? We come off as condescending to people who are oblivious to reality (to the point where they grate our nerves) and to people who are spouting total lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix5 View Post
    No. INTJs, like ISTJs, are extremely passive people. Where is this dominating thing coming from? We come off as condescending to people who are oblivious to reality (to the point where they grate our nerves) and to people who are spouting total lies.
    Not quite. We just put ends over means generally. An ENTJ seems more likely to want to do things his way as much for the sake of it as because it will bring good results. I would like a dollar for every time I have thought of how something might be done, but then let someone else do it their way because I could see it would get the result I wanted, and I then could turn my efforts toward something else. When I see that their way won't get good results, though, I am anything but passive. This is related to the idea that INTJs don't seek leadership, but will step foward as leaders when others aren't getting the job done, then return to the background once the crisis has been addressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix5 View Post
    No. INTJs, like ISTJs, are extremely passive people. Where is this dominating thing coming from? We come off as condescending to people who are oblivious to reality (to the point where they grate our nerves) and to people who are spouting total lies.
    You're not dominating in action, just in mind, which is where the bulk of the Internet takes place. I get along with INTJs great in person, but terribly online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anticlimatic View Post
    You're not dominating in action, just in mind, which is where the bulk of the Internet takes place. I get along with INTJs great in person, but terribly online.
    This is an interesting point, which I think goes beyond just INTJs. I think that a lot of people who feel like they don't get to speak their mind in real life tend to let their thoughts out on the internet, especially anonymously. This is going to be doubly true for INTJs (and INFJs), who tend to feel misunderstood most of the time in real life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    This is an interesting point, which I think goes beyond just INTJs. I think that a lot of people who feel like they don't get to speak their mind in real life tend to let their thoughts out on the internet, especially anonymously. This is going to be doubly true for INTJs (and INFJs), who tend to feel misunderstood most of the time in real life.
    This is true for INxPs, also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    This is an interesting point, which I think goes beyond just INTJs. I think that a lot of people who feel like they don't get to speak their mind in real life tend to let their thoughts out on the internet, especially anonymously. This is going to be doubly true for INTJs (and INFJs), who tend to feel misunderstood most of the time in real life.
    Sounds like INxx perhaps. You mention in another thread the possible meaning behind an INTJ manner during information gathering, which I thought sounded like me word for word. Me thinks introverted intuitive problems.

    Also, do you teach for a living?

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    I don't hate INTJs, it's hard for me to hate someone. Like truly and utterly hate someone. I haven't met a lot of INTJs though, to add to that.
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    Not quite. We just put ends over means generally. An ENTJ seems more likely to want to do things his way as much for the sake of it as because it will bring good results. I would like a dollar for every time I have thought of how something might be done, but then let someone else do it their way because I could see it would get the result I wanted, and I then could turn my efforts toward something else. When I see that their way won't get good results, though, I am anything but passive. This is related to the idea that INTJs don't seek leadership, but will step foward as leaders when others aren't getting the job done, then return to the background once the crisis has been addressed.
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