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    Quote Originally Posted by Belle of Kilronan View Post
    I am pretty new to the forum and haven't got any experience with INTJs to begin with, so I wouldn't know from an objective perspective why they are hated. But if this forum is meant for posting your honest opinions on any subject you want to, I would say that I am pretty appalled at the things I have seen posted about INTJs from other types. And I am continually surprised by how calmly INTJ members took it. I was on PerC for some time, and I have seen similar threads like these for other types' forum. The complete opposite response. Outright denial left and right.

    For example, the "why don't people like esfjs?" forum was filled with people saying "I totally don't know what everywun's (*cough* NTs *cough*) problem is! Esfjs are the bestz!" The posters who were honest were vilified. It was a real eye-opener. In some way, I am glad I learned about other types' perspective on INTJs. It encourages me to not pay attention to what others have to say about me, because it's so far removed from actual reality it's FUCKING scary. Seriously? A predator, because I don't cheese out with every person I meet? Or that I should shirk what comes naturally for me and what makes me feel embodied and become a neutered version of myself in order to appease people who don't care for me, and will never care for me?

    It's like INTJs are not being treated as human beings with actual emotions, we're just these punching bags for people to take their irrational fears and frustrations out on. Anyone who is different is treated the same way. It's disheartening. I realize more and more, that we live in an age where people can sympathize with squirrels better than they empathize with other humans. I pose this rhetorical question for more common types, feeling types especially. If you know an INTJ, and you see their "sociability" as lacking, in what way did you do to help them without forcing them to change and adapt to who you want them to be, or what you think is the ideal? Because if you engage in that kind of soul-destroying behavior, you don't have much empathizing capacity yourself. At least, if someone is abstract and logical, they will be able to do what is right by a person regardless of how they actually feel towards them (think Kant's categorical imperative). Choosing to be automatically more sympathetic towards someone because their eyes squint when they smile and for all these other micromovements enacted in elapsed time displays the worst traits embedded within the human psyche and is the bedrock for society-devolving beliefs like racism, homophobia, sexism and oppression of the weak.

    This forum is making me ill. Leaving.
    Hey, preach it sister! But don't leave! Trust me, if you're leaving a forum because people are stereotyping, you should probably leave society as a whole, it's a natural human behaviour. Thing is, INTJ's are often treated as punching bags because HOLY SHIT can we take some punches. If the same things were said about a group of SF/NF's, we'd have a lot of whining, which isn't a bad thing, it's just how they deal with harsh criticism. If you notice though, many people love INTJ's here too, and some are neutral on the matter, but most don't like how cold and calculating we seem, even in the most heated of situations, it makes them feel nervous that they can't get an emotional rise out of us, and that no matter what; we'll refute their arguments in a cool-headed manner But yeah I agree with you, it does show a lack of empathy on their behalf, I have talked to several INTP's and ENTJ's that feel the same about the matter, we're often rejected in many circles, just the way things are. But don't leave! Pls! You'll fine that the stereotyping and prejudiced pest on the forum are in the minority. I was turned off at first too, but you'll see some familiar faces after a while, and it'll make dealing with them worth while
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidius View Post
    Hey, preach it sister! But don't leave! Trust me, if you're leaving a forum because people are stereotyping, you should probably leave society as a whole, it's a natural human behaviour. Thing is, INTJ's are often treated as punching bags because HOLY SHIT can we take some punches. If the same things were said about a group of SF/NF's, we'd have a lot of whining, which isn't a bad thing, it's just how they deal with harsh criticism. If you notice though, many people love INTJ's here too, and some are neutral on the matter, but most don't like how cold and calculating we seem, even in the most heated of situations, it makes them feel nervous that they can't get an emotional rise out of us, and that no matter what; we'll refute their arguments in a cool-headed manner But yeah I agree with you, it does show a lack of empathy on their behalf, I have talked to several INTP's and ENTJ's that feel the same about the matter, we're often rejected in many circles, just the way things are. But don't leave! Pls! You'll fine that the stereotyping and prejudiced pest on the forum are in the minority. I was turned off at first too, but you'll see some familiar faces after a while, and it'll make dealing with them worth while
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belle of Kilronan View Post
    Thanks. And I love your siggy.
    One thing you'll notice on this forum is that there are many more older members than on other forums.

    The part you're missing on the part of INTJs here is the sardonic looks that simply don't work over the internet. It isn't that we "allow" INTJs to be badmouthed. It's more like we're ignoring puppies yapping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    They smell.
    I like to rock n' roll all night and *part* of every day. I usually have errands... I can only rock from like 1-3.

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    Indeed we smell. We have noses, after all.

    Pity the poor non-INTJs and their lack of noses.
    An argument is two people sharing their ignorance.

    A discussion is two people sharing their understanding, even when they disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    They smell.
    Haha really? I have a phobia of smelling bad.. Not even joking, I have to be wearing cologne and deodorant just to stop the paranoia XD So, no, not all of us smell
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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    One thing you'll notice on this forum is that there are many more older members than on other forums.

    The part you're missing on the part of INTJs here is the sardonic looks that simply don't work over the internet. It isn't that we "allow" INTJs to be badmouthed. It's more like we're ignoring puppies yapping.
    Haha this is too good! But strangely true, mainly because the complaints they often bring up are so vacuous! I find it funny that they think we take them seriously...
    Kind of feel like posting this everytime: at-least-you-tried.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belle of Kilronan View Post
    Thanks. And I love your siggy.
    No worries! And haha thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    They smell.
    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidius View Post
    Haha really? I have a phobia of smelling bad.. Not even joking, I have to be wearing cologne and deodorant just to stop the paranoia XD So, no, not all of us smell
    lmfao, hahahaha, omg that was the funniest thing all day. You smell fine.




    ha, ok, ALERT ALERT being serious now! I don't hate 'em, if anything they hate me as I can play their logic games, except I don't always play by the rules.
    I've had this ice cream bar, since I was a child!

    Each thought's completely warped
    I'm like a walkin', talkin', ouija board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    lmfao, hahahaha, omg that was the funniest thing all day. You smell fine.




    ha, ok, ALERT ALERT being serious now! I don't hate 'em, if anything they hate me as I can play their logic games, except I don't always play by the rules.
    Haha I don't even mind if you hate us or not, but some of us have fun playing logic games, and a lot of us like when people don't play by the rules, very easy to call people on it
    I celebrate myself, and sing myself,
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