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    @chubber, my parent is ENFP and she's super critical of me. Apparently I plan too much, consider too many options before making decisions and she is always giving me backhanded comments along the lines of 'whatever, you wont be successful'. Coming from someone known for making rash decisions that end horribly, its ironic. My big problem in life is that I apparently want everything to be perfect and it stops me taking action. My argument is at least I'm not blindly taking knee jerk actions that create huge messes.

    We have nothing in common and its quite a toxic dynamic to be around.

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    I have just recently came to the conclusion that despite the fact that the INTJ might be a villainous creature in many ways. Like the great Satan, tests us and generally seems like a decent fellow if you read between the lines really. I don't really consider bad behavior or arrogance to be a building block of a evil person myself. Most of the times they are generally just sort of different, and blunt in their rejection of reality values.

    The INFJ despite the tendency of people to view them as the glorified type, does have the general description of a largely being a moody, passive aggressive sort of person who will completely cut you off of your life if you do something to offend them. Despite their calm serene demeanor are generally filled with a sort of hatred against other people and a pretentiousness INTJ descriptors lack. A lot of "INFJs" who bought into that image only really use it to justify their own discontent with people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    They seem to be viewed as narcissistic elitists by many people of other types (or perhaps even by some within their own type), and I'm wondering how accurate these perceptions really may be, or why people actually develop them to begin with.
    I usually like INTJs (when they aren't bossy), so I don't know.

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    The Batman is an INTJ. I have to kill the Batman.

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    To answer the OP, I would say that people take the verbal abuse personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameeker View Post
    To answer the OP, I would say that people take the verbal abuse personally.
    Please qualify your statement. While I may not say things as tactfully as others an intention to abuse is rarely behind my communication. While other thinking types can come across as blunt, aloof or even rude at times I rarely if ever find them abusive towards me. The more feeling orientated types however, can be just awful and unpleasant to deal with as they appear to genuinely attempt wound others just because they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PimpinMcBoltage View Post
    I have just recently came to the conclusion that despite the fact that the INTJ might be a villainous creature in many ways. Like the great Satan, tests us and generally seems like a decent fellow if you read between the lines really. I don't really consider bad behavior or arrogance to be a building block of a evil person myself. Most of the times they are generally just sort of different, and blunt in their rejection of reality values.
    I saw a good argument in favor of the Devil being an INTJ before below:

    Quote Originally Posted by Emotionalogic View Post
    Milton's Satan is a total INTJ. Ne, ti, and fe would all point towards wanting to work with God's plan (in the context of the story). Ne would accept that God is in everything and there's no way to escape him, but Satan, as a ni user, rejects that and assumes that his ideas are independent of the external world (God) and, because he is a ni-dom, are superior to them (he wants to shut out inferior se). Ti would see the logic of God's plan; Satan, as a te user, wants to replace it with a "better" plan of his own (which springs from his dominant ni). He applies these ideas to the world (via rebellion) with great intransigence and determination. Honestly, what ENTP would proclaim "its better to reign in hell than serve in heaven" to a gathering of followers? Te is clear. So is fi; a fe user would submit to God's love and try to live in harmony with the external world. As a ni-fi user, Satan wants to remain intellectually and emotionally independent, which drives the story forwards. An ENTP would give God lip, but wouldn't rebel and declare that he would "raise my throne above the stars of God". That takes a certain J stubborness and pride, as well as a certain inferior se obliviousness to reality in favor of ni visions (or, if you prefer, delusions ).

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    What I mean is name-calling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ameeker View Post
    What I mean is name-calling.
    What do you consider to be namecalling? Some things are obvious (jerk, jackass); but if your posts on a subject show to me that you don't understand it well at all and I say you are ignorant, is that namecalling? Uncomfortable truths require words for expression, and people who take all criticism personally often characterize any negative descriptor as namecalling. (I'm not saying you do this, just inquiring what your personal threshold is.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    just inquiring what your personal threshold is.)
    That's a good question.

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