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[INTJ] Calling All INTJs: I am considering becoming INTJ

Coriolis

Si vis pacem, para bellum
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I do find them similar in that they are more that way than the sensing functions, because the division of N and S has to do with this distinction. But compared with each other they are quite different.

I hadn't noticed the sensing functions possessing this polarity- how would you describe it?
N and S have more to do with abstract ideas vs. sensory input. The distinction you seemed to be making, and on which I disagreed, was between being goal-oriented vs. finding value in the process or activity for its own sake. Not being an S I am going out on a limb here, but I would expect SPs to enjoy these physical, tangible, or concrete activities and processes for their own sake, vs SJs who use them more as a means to an end. For example, an artist who creates just out of enjoyment of the artistic process vs. someone who is focused on the final product; or an athlete who plays for the joy of the sport and the personal development, vs. to win. The P types share the quality of more presence in and enjoyment of the moment, whether that moment be filled with sensory impressions or intuitive thoughts. The J types are more focused on accomplishing specific ends. Yes, another oversimplification, but one aligned with axes other than those you used.
 

greenfairy

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N and S have more to do with abstract ideas vs. sensory input. The distinction you seemed to be making, and on which I disagreed, was between being goal-oriented vs. finding value in the process or activity for its own sake. Not being an S I am going out on a limb here, but I would expect SPs to enjoy these physical, tangible, or concrete activities and processes for their own sake, vs SJs who use them more as a means to an end. For example, an artist who creates just out of enjoyment of the artistic process vs. someone who is focused on the final product; or an athlete who plays for the joy of the sport and the personal development, vs. to win. The P types share the quality of more presence in and enjoyment of the moment, whether that moment be filled with sensory impressions or intuitive thoughts. The J types are more focused on accomplishing specific ends. Yes, another oversimplification, but one aligned with axes other than those you used.
That makes sense. I say both are true then.
 
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