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  • EN - Stimulating, Diffuser, Entrepreneur

    5 20.83%
  • NP - Prospector, Innovative, Libertarian

    10 41.67%
  • ET - Objectivist, Commander, Competitor

    1 4.17%
  • TP - Questioner, Skeptic, Logician

    3 12.50%
  • NT - Rational, Designer, Engineer

    5 20.83%
  • EP -Opportunistic, Intrepid

    0 0%
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    I always found the letter R rather dashing.
    And so long as you haven’t experienced this: to die and so to grow,
    you are only a troubled guest on the dark earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Up Rex View Post
    I always found the letter R rather dashing.
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
    ... In theory.

    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
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    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    I'd be suspect of there actually being a TP or ET variety..... how could the T be higher than the N?
    Good point. But it's about strength of preference, not function order, even though the two are somewhat related I think. At least that's what the experts say.
    i think the idea here is that you don't break it down to function theory, instead you use broad strokes that define a different set of archetypes, and see were you place yourself within them, how strongly do you belong to each circle.

    so for the question of NP vs. TP, it's not your Ne vs Ti but rather, how similar are you to the NP archetype (together with INTP INFP & ENFP) vs. how similar are you to the TP archetype (together with INTP ISTP & ESTP), on the same token that NTs and NFs each form a group without having any particular function dominating either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    i think the idea here is that you don't break it down to function theory, instead you use broad strokes that define a different set of archetypes, and see were you place yourself within them, how strongly do you belong to each circle.

    so for the question of NP vs. TP, it's not your Ne vs Ti but rather, how similar are you to the NP archetype (together with INTP INFP & ENFP) vs. how similar are you to the TP archetype (together with INTP ISTP & ESTP), on the same token that NTs and NFs each form a group without having any particular function dominating either.
    Hm. I guess that's plausible. I don't think in these broad ways because I'm always breaking things down into smaller parts. (Maybe that shows I'm technically an introvert. Do ENTP's do this too? I guess they must, but maybe not as much as INTP's?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Hm. I guess that's plausible. I don't think in these broad ways because I'm always breaking things down into smaller parts.
    neither do i - here's my trick:

    i read the functions as follows:
    TiFe: reflects upon information to explore the outside.
    FiTe: super imposes information to express the inside.
    SiNe: connects incoming information in one's collection.
    NiSe: connecting incoming information within it's flow.

    this allows me to split each function in two ways:

    temperamental:
    T: resolving stress from cognitive dissonance in general.
    F: resolving stress from emotional dissonance in particular.
    S: reacts to the existing details of the experienced objects.
    N: reacts to the relationships between the experienced objects.

    cognitive:
    Je manifests as an information mapping mechanism, stressed by chaotic stimuli.
    Ji manifests as an information navigating mechanism, seeking maximum stimuli.
    Pe manifests as information threading, providing the most stimulating images.
    Pi manifests as information framing, providing the most cohesive images.

    which stems from this:
    E functions are processed faster then the rate at which we consciously experience them.
    -> demanding that we'll catch up & compensate for the missing nuances by bouncing it off others.
    I functions are processed slower then the rate at which we consciously experience them.
    -> demanding that we'll wait for the information to unfold and give it the mental space to do so.

    this way, i can say that:
    someone is "very E" = always running to catch up with the latest processed info.
    someone is "very N" = pays a lot of attention to the relationships between objects.
    someone is "very T" = very stressed by cognitive dissonance in general.
    someone is "very P" = very oriented towards seeking the maximum stimulation.

    and still do it in my comfort zone (breaking information down).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    neither do i - here's my trick:

    i read the functions as follows:
    TiFe: reflects upon information to explore the outside.
    FiTe: super imposes information to express the inside.
    SiNe: connects incoming information in one's collection.
    NiSe: connecting incoming information within it's flow.

    this allows me to split each function in two ways:

    temperamental:
    T: resolving stress from cognitive dissonance in general.
    F: resolving stress from emotional dissonance in particular.
    S: reacts to the existing details of the experienced objects.
    N: reacts to the relationships between the experienced objects.

    cognitive:
    Je manifests as an information mapping mechanism, stressed by chaotic stimuli.
    Ji manifests as an information navigating mechanism, seeking maximum stimuli.
    Pe manifests as information threading, providing the most stimulating images.
    Pi manifests as information framing, providing the most cohesive images.

    which stems from this:
    E functions are processed faster then the rate at which we consciously experience them.
    -> demanding that we'll catch up & compensate for the missing nuances by bouncing it off others.
    I functions are processed slower then the rate at which we consciously experience them.
    -> demanding that we'll wait for the information to unfold and give it the mental space to do so.

    this way, i can say that:
    someone is "very E" = always running to catch up with the latest processed info.
    someone is "very N" = pays a lot of attention to the relationships between objects.
    someone is "very T" = very stressed by cognitive dissonance in general.
    someone is "very P" = very oriented towards seeking the maximum stimulation.

    and still do it in my comfort zone (breaking information down).
    Ah, awesome! That is like the way I think. Well then, if I'm an ambivert, I can conclude from this I am most strongly NT.

    Nice way to think of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Quite right! And btw, fwiw, I'd just like to point out that this quotation sounds rather NF.
    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    Why am I quoting this amazing article here you might ask? Because fantasies of all kinds can become realities if you believe they can be achieved. We will go where our dreams come true!
    How do you as an NT differ from me as an NF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    How do you as an NT differ from me as an NF?
    It's a mystery which has yet to be solved.

    I do think about your type now and then. I don't think I particularly seem like more of T than you, it's just that I don't think I can rule out INFJ as a possibility for you. But I may yet. I do think however that you are an Fe-Ti user, though not necessarily in that order.

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    @RaptorWizard - you've suggested in the past that you give credit to the wisdom of the crowd, wouldn't @greenfairy & me both stating you're almost certainly a Ti user count as a crowd?

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    Sure thing buddy, sure thing - both of you shall become yet another factors in the great quest to solve the mystery of my being; with the power of Ti at my command, the group mentality shall be eclipsed from this plane, and hence I won't need the service of my loyal subjects once the construction comes to completion (inferior Fe is after all a weak and pathetic servant of the light)! Ti users like to say, "Screw the rules, I have gold! It holds all promise for my poop."

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