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    Default Bizarre behavior of my INTJ friend

    A few months ago, I worked with an acquaintance of mine who is a very self-centered INTJ. In my opinion, it is unclear what his type is, but he seems to be absolutely convinced that he cannot be any other type than INTJ. When I ask him why he is so interested in typology and how he can be certain what his type is, I usually get answers that resemble the following.

    -I am very smart and all INTJs are smart, think Ayn Rand or Nietzsche.
    -I am very imaginative and creative, INTJs are visionaries.
    -I am very logical and organized, INTJs are organized.
    -I am very good at contingency planning, all INTJs are planners.

    Anyways, I think that's enough for now, can someone tell me what's wrong with this outlook?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemoon123123 View Post
    A few months ago, I worked with an acquaintance of mine who is a very self-centered INTJ. In my opinion, it is unclear what his type is, but he seems to be absolutely convinced that he cannot be any other type than INTJ. When I ask him why he is so interested in typology and how he can be certain what his type is, I usually get answers that resemble the following.

    -I am very smart and all INTJs are smart, think Ayn Rand or Nietzsche.
    -I am very imaginative and creative, INTJs are visionaries.
    -I am very logical and organized, INTJs are organized.
    -I am very good at contingency planning, all INTJs are planners.

    Anyways, I think that's enough for now, can someone tell me what's wrong with this outlook?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemoon123123 View Post
    A few months ago, I worked with an acquaintance of mine who is a very self-centered INTJ. In my opinion, it is unclear what his type is, but he seems to be absolutely convinced that he cannot be any other type than INTJ. When I ask him why he is so interested in typology and how he can be certain what his type is, I usually get answers that resemble the following.

    -I am very smart and all INTJs are smart, think Ayn Rand or Nietzsche.
    -I am very imaginative and creative, INTJs are visionaries.
    -I am very logical and organized, INTJs are organized.
    -I am very good at contingency planning, all INTJs are planners.

    Anyways, I think that's enough for now, can someone tell me what's wrong with this outlook?
    @bold- his observation about all INTJs being intelligent*- citing Ayn Rand as an example of intelligence.. nullifies his initial statement regarding his own intellect..

    *(stupid NTs do exist, & they're as painful a sight to behold as a callous NF or a cowardly STP)



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    The argument that Ayn Rand was intelligent is very far from being obviously true. Besides, there is a fallacy the statement that because some intelligent person was an INTJ, all INTJs are intelligence. I believe that's called a fallacy of composition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemoon123123 View Post
    The argument that Ayn Rand was intelligent is very far from being obviously true.
    Indeed, one needs to know a few things about her to find it obviously true.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluemoon123123 View Post
    Besides, there is a fallacy the statement that because some intelligent person was an INTJ, all INTJs are intelligence. I believe that's called a fallacy of composition.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

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    I am very smart and all INTJs are smart
    Idiotic.

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    I just directed my friend to this thread and received the following response. "INTJs don't have time for these pesky little things".

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    Anyone who I believed was a friend who I discovered was a fan of Rand I'd say was just somebody I used to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemoon123123 View Post
    I just directed my friend to this thread and received the following response. "INTJs don't have time for these pesky little things".
    I think he's jerking your chain.

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    Tell him that the view of personality as inherent is flawed because it tends to lead to more negative outcomes when the individual confronts a challenge that they view themselves as inherently incapable of being able to meet rather than as a trait or skill that can be augmented over time through changed behavior
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

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