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    Which INTJs are currently ensconced as evil overlord, master manipulator? Seriously I can't think of a single one currently heading up the illuminati and pulling the puppet mater strings of international economics. As far as I can tell INTJs are most likely to be masters of their filing cabinet of neurosis and intray of broken dreams. We are for the most part woefully inept at manipulating people since we lack the charisma and insight into other people that such a feat requires.

    NB - I only clicked on this thread because I thought it was yet another INTJ falling victim to their delusions of grandeur.

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    "NB - I only clicked on this thread because I thought it was yet another INTJ falling victim to their delusions of grandeur. "

    hahhah, that got me laughing! =D

    "Which INTJs are currently ensconced as evil overlord, master manipulator? Seriously I can't think of a single one currently heading up the illuminati and pulling the puppet mater strings of international economics. As far as I can tell INTJs are most likely to be masters of their filing cabinet of neurosis and intray of broken dreams. We are for the most part woefully inept at manipulating people since we lack the charisma and insight into other people that such a feat requires."

    i dont think intj's are incapable of great achievements. Just look at skyrims game designer todd howard, most likely intj and his awkward charisma is cute. Super cute.

    Intj's can study themselves well into their passion and contribute that way. The european school system is perfect for intj's to rise in, not so much for infj's as we rather learn by ourselves, the Te studying approach only distracting us
    healthiness is all about appreciating other peoples inferior function. its like the sore spot no one ever notices, but we desperately wish they did, and if you focus on doing that, youll have many friends. and also learn to appreciate your own inferior function, others wont find it stupid if you show them how cool it is.

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    mistakes happen. expect them, and grow from them. look for them, and avoid them.

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    "NB - I only clicked on this thread because I thought it was yet another INTJ falling victim to their delusions of grandeur. "

    hahhah, that got me laughing! =D

    "Which INTJs are currently ensconced as evil overlord, master manipulator? Seriously I can't think of a single one currently heading up the illuminati and pulling the puppet mater strings of international economics. As far as I can tell INTJs are most likely to be masters of their filing cabinet of neurosis and intray of broken dreams. We are for the most part woefully inept at manipulating people since we lack the charisma and insight into other people that such a feat requires."

    i dont think intj's are incapable of great achievements. Just look at skyrims game designer todd howard, most likely intj and his awkward charisma is cute. Super cute.

    Intj's can study themselves well into their passion and contribute that way. The european school system is perfect for intj's to rise in, not so much for infj's as we rather learn by ourselves, the Te studying approach only distracting us
    healthiness is all about appreciating other peoples inferior function. its like the sore spot no one ever notices, but we desperately wish they did, and if you focus on doing that, youll have many friends. and also learn to appreciate your own inferior function, others wont find it stupid if you show them how cool it is.

    INTJ 4w3 Sp Sx. (i dont believe in tritype. i do believe in learning traits from others.)

    mistakes happen. expect them, and grow from them. look for them, and avoid them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilku View Post
    i dont think intj's are incapable of great achievements. Just look at skyrims game designer todd howard, most likely intj and his awkward charisma is cute. Super cute.
    Even then, Howard is more of a master specialist. Not an all seeing eye over the game.. He's more of the master of his domain, in the world building and engine tech. This is what he can promote the most. He doesn't speak up much about lore, storyline, character design, etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Even then, Howard is more of a master specialist. Not an all seeing eye over the game.. He's more of the master of his domain, in the world building and engine tech. This is what he can promote the most. He doesn't speak up much about lore, storyline, character design, etc..
    thats how things go, there are roles cause people have different strengths. Like i would rather not attempt contributing in technicalities to this world, but rather with my creative use of skills i master such as using my voice for acting, and creating music by instruments, by which i hope i could some day contribute to games in my specializations. However, ive also gone and dwelled in the game technicalities so its not impossible for me to perform in those areas too, in fact i pride myself for being multitalented which means i can, even alone take projects which would normally require multiple people. And im planning to extend my creative abilities even in drawing which i hate, and you wonder why? Well i love my drawings even as i hate doing them. I just think it would be useful so i can vomit my creativity in that form too, making the possibilities of my creations even larger compartment.
    healthiness is all about appreciating other peoples inferior function. its like the sore spot no one ever notices, but we desperately wish they did, and if you focus on doing that, youll have many friends. and also learn to appreciate your own inferior function, others wont find it stupid if you show them how cool it is.

    INTJ 4w3 Sp Sx. (i dont believe in tritype. i do believe in learning traits from others.)

    mistakes happen. expect them, and grow from them. look for them, and avoid them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    usually it's less "conquering the world" and more "conquering a tiny little corner of their own tiny little world".

    a good example for an INTJ doing so might be my father:
    • he was quite content in having transformed the way Israeli timeshare businesses operate by catering for local market needs and thus creating an economic opening for local companies to compete with the larger international ones coming in. he looked at it, his vision was implemented, smiled, and sold it.
    • before that he was working in a high school, until he was very happy in having transformed the way the science and technology has being taught in that school, opening whole new departments, and created a local program for helping kids overcome difficulty in math in their own pace. when he felt his job was done, he went onto look for the next thing he wanted to do (figuring out how he can combine his love of travel with business).
    • apparently he did something similar in some kind of airforce program which he was very proud of and yet never share the details, but all of his old army buddies thought he's a freaking genius.


    neither of those involved some megalomaniac dream of changing the world, instead he found his own little niches in his own little world in which he can implement his vision, feel incredibly content about it and move on. yet as small as it might be, by the time he was in his mid 40s, he felt like he has conquered the world, in his own little ways.
    This seems fairly typical for the INTJs I know, myself included. We are good at setting our goals high, but not so high that we cannot achieve them. Of course, it doesn't always look like that to others, but to us, other people often aim for far less than they would be able to achieve.
    I've been called a criminal, a terrorist, and a threat to the known universe. But everything you were told is a lie. The truth is, they've taken our freedom, our home, and our future. The time has come for all humanity to take a stand...

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    Every time I see this question pop up in the new posts, "INTJ's, conquering the world, why?"

    I ask myself, "Why not?"

    Every INTJ I know looks at their world with an eye to improvement. If any type is especially wired to have a vision and execute it, it's an INTJ.
    "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one."
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    "When people see some things as beautiful,
    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad."
    Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    I ask myself, "Why not?"
    Why not? Because it's my world too. I don't care how much the whole improves, I still demand to have my own sandbox. And if I need a god to rule over me, I'll look for one not made of flesh and bone, and who doesn't takes shits and eats just like I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilku View Post
    i have noticed that trend, but i still wonder if its all evil selfish, or are there good intjs too? Although ive noticed all tertiary feelers are evil, for intjs case its by being at the top manipulating those beneath.

    Is that behavior\thinking healthy for intj's?
    It'd bring me a little closer to killing everyone on the revenge list and possessing the love of my life. I'm usual E rather than I but anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Why not? Because it's my world too. I don't care how much the whole improves, I still demand to have my own sandbox. And if I need a god to rule over me, I'll look for one not made of flesh and bone, and who doesn't takes shits and eats just like I do.


    "Remember always that you not only have the right to be an individual, you have an obligation to be one."
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    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad."
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