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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    You will also use it to notice patterns that you havent figured out before yet. Things that make you go 'huh...why does it do that?' while everyone around you is going 'do what?? What are you on about?' Once you notice all the pieces, you'll put it together pretty fast and will recognise it instantly if it occurs again in the future. This can be applied to real life situations, but more often than not, is applied to more abstract concepts. (For instance, as an ENFP, I get accused of mindreading, when all I really do is study the behavioral patterns of a certain person, and for taht matter a certain type of person, in order to predict their mental, emotional and physical state at all times. It can result in me saying something to them that they need to hear before they were able to say so, or before they even realise that they need to hear it).
    Very helpful post, thanks, and also I get called mind reader all the freaking time. I saw another thread about people having issues with finishing other people's sentences because they already know where everything is going. It's that, but it's more than that too. I feel like I catalog and integrate all that same abstract stuff about people, and then it surprises me when nobody else notices. That is not at all to say that I'm extremely observant, I tend to be on a cloud in more concrete matters. I once spoke with a girl in middle school every day for a week, cracked a joke that really offended her... something about tying shoes. And it was then that I realized that she only had one arm. So I missed the big stuff there, but I can tell you at any given time what kind of state someone is in mentally with just a glance.

    I wonder if that's a result (reading people) of having grown up under a very angry person and feeling the need to constantly monitor them?? Because I am very NT that I could ever tell...

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    Quote Originally Posted by theWurdsmith View Post
    I once spoke with a girl in middle school every day for a week, cracked a joke that really offended her... something about tying shoes. And it was then that I realized that she only had one arm.


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    Seeing possibilities, simultaneously, beyond the tangible. Reality having many forms - and thinking it's perfectly acceptable for it to be so. A game of "what if". Seeing the forest for the trees. Being the web and the spider at the same time. Exhausting. Exhilarating. Curiosity unleashed.

    Now what one does with such an information overload, will depend on Ti or Fi.

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    Ne: The part of your mind which interprets the name Qre:us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theWurdsmith View Post
    Very helpful post, thanks, and also I get called mind reader all the freaking time. I saw another thread about people having issues with finishing other people's sentences because they already know where everything is going. It's that, but it's more than that too. I feel like I catalog and integrate all that same abstract stuff about people, and then it surprises me when nobody else notices. That is not at all to say that I'm extremely observant, I tend to be on a cloud in more concrete matters. I once spoke with a girl in middle school every day for a week, cracked a joke that really offended her... something about tying shoes. And it was then that I realized that she only had one arm. So I missed the big stuff there, but I can tell you at any given time what kind of state someone is in mentally with just a glance.

    I wonder if that's a result (reading people) of having grown up under a very angry person and feeling the need to constantly monitor them?? Because I am very NT that I could ever tell...
    ha i did something similar once...i have no idea why but i was working behind a waist height counter and when i saw a man there with his head just barely poking over it...i assumed he was being silly..so i responded in kind by crouching down and putting on a silly voice asking him how may i help you

    and omfg the guy was in a freakin wheel chair! what is wrong with me!!

    (have said this before at some point so sorry for repeating stories but i was a bit traumatized i tell ya!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    It's rapid connection. Linking. This to this to this to this to this, expanding outwards. It's what makes your thoughts go from the color blue to quantum physics to astrology to scientology to utah to salt to the ocean to the color blue. It what makes your mind so fast and your attention so short.
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    + seeking possibilites, exploring new things/possibilities, making new connectiona, endless and seemingly illogical brainstorming, aha-moments when the pattern is complete, quickly seeing the big picture and so on.

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    It's like google: feed it some input and it will retrieve all references to similar content e.g. an event in the outside world, a person's action/reaction, tangible objects, or ideas, that you can recall [this is where Si will assist] and all it's associations, including making suggestions to completely apparently unrelated references by making a change/replacing some object with a similar purpose/function with the new input and "retesting" if the network where it belongs to becomes more relevant to the provided input. All this will be happening simultaneously as you are perceiving the input from whichever source.

    Ti/Fi [ the aux Judging function for ENTP/ENFP] will play a role in the process I just described, though, as the role of Ne is to just look at the big picture [like a zoom out in google earth] and identifying/gathering data from it, to feed the aux function to process and return what is relevant, like a feedback filtering mechanism, so Ne can look back at the big picture and reassess data based on the aux analysis input.
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    wow you win i think ^^ that's a fantastic response!
    There can’t be any large-scale revolution until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level. It’s got to happen inside first.
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    Ne loosens physical properties of things and starts to recombine them, creating things with new properties. It needs Si to help it keep grounded though, otherwise it gets out of hand.

    There is demonstration of Si and Ne in picture in this article in you look at the bottom.

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    and to expand on that puzzle analogy....

    i find that...every situation contains a puzzle...everything is being interpreted all the time

    zooms in and out constantly trying to infer the whole story...of everything

    i wonder if that person works a second job and that's why they're so tired all the time...he must have family back in Mexico that he supports...he must not get more than a few hours of sleep...wow...
    thinks about how hard it is for other people who have moved from other countries and had to learn the language and get jobs etc...and then the people born here who can't even figure out how to do it...blah blah...
    completely stuck in my head...not aware of anything else going on as I'm standing in line there...

    next situation i walk into...same thing...
    dude don't look at me like that with your girlfriend right there...then on and on psychoanalyzing this guy and his relationship and then her...it's fucking madness i tell you

    you're all under a microscope!!
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    ^^^ yes. ^^^ just yes. everything is a major puzzle. I'm not happy if there is no puzzle.

    Guys, seriously thanks, this is all starting to really make sense. And okay don't judge me, but when Lady X made the man in a wheelchair anecdote, I laughed my @ss off in the lunch room. Not in a mean way, but in an OH MY GOD THAT'S ME way. I don't have foot-in-mouth syndrome, I have my-entire-body-in-mouth syndrome. I value being funny and trying to get other people to enjoy it too and then stuff like that happens.

    And YES! The google thing, that is great. I was thinking in that vein on my way home from work yesterday (and my way to my other work this morning.), but in terms of wikipedia. I almost dread looking things up on Wikipedia sometimes if I know that I have to be somewhere within the next hour or two. Because by the time three hours have passed, I'll have started reading about neodymium magnets, get a third of the way down the page, wonder what a hysteresis loop is and open that in another tab, which I start to read, which then- blah blah blah, I'm sure you see where this is going. Finally at some point after I've finished with the shoelace industry, I go "oh.... oh HEY neodymium magnets, awesome! I forgot about that-" and finish that with renewed fascination. But then I can take that entire scattering of bs I just read and actually integrate it in useful ways later.

    And yes on the people too!! I always do that- That woman was just a complete b***h to me but you know, what if she's on a prolonged dose of steroids and can't help it. I've been heavily medicated before on things that make me an uncontrollable douche, and you feel worse for not being able to catch it before it comes out. She must be miserable. She completely just insulted my math in front of a bunch of people (gasp) and then raised her voice at me because I misunderstood her original meaning (double gasp), but now I pity her in that she has some circumstance making her be so unreasonable. LOL.

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