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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourplay View Post
    No, INTP.

    There isn't enough context there for you to estimate that. We were even in a business course where MBTI was required and she tested INTP.
    I'm not estimating it. I'm telling you what she sounds like to me. Anything is possible. For all I know, she could be entj.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INA View Post
    I'm not estimating it. I'm telling you what she sounds like to me. Anything is possible.
    Your pattern recognition program must be updated young jedi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourplay View Post
    Your pattern recognition program must be updated young jedi.
    Try harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INA View Post
    of course everybody can be anything at some point in time. I wouldn't say the tendencies toward certain behaviors are the same in intp men as women, tho.
    Both biological genders land on a spectrum of behaviours where overarching, is the wariness and need for autonomy. Vulnerabilities revealed take forever but they're a hot button, like nothing else. The difference would be that most INTP women are more in tune with their feelings where most INTP men aren't or as much. As a guess, a socialisation issue, although I wouldn't discount the impacts of testosterone and estrogen.

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    My overall impression is it would be an awesome combo for a partnership, but not for a relationship.

    Most of them don't respond well to compliments, and also don't seem to bother thanking people.
    They reject any kind of emotional support/consolation in order to keep their badass image.
    They seem to just bother when people are behaving in a way they don't like (aka bossing around).

    Can work, but will require a good deal of emotional intelligence (from both parties).

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    Quote Originally Posted by INA View Post
    I really can't. If it's one thing that kills my ladyboner it's dogmatic attitudes about anything. ENTJs seem to delight in dogma, and dish it out in spades, and the INTP woman is not likely to be shy about mocking or deriding them for it. It will be passionate, but not in any good way.
    ENTJs are not so much dogmatic as principled. If something falls into an area that we feel strongly about, we'll have to hear something fairly convincing in order to change our viewpoint. And btw, while, ya'll may be more "open-minded" on overall ideas, you can be just as stubborn (and equally vocal about it) when it comes to something that doesn't sit well with you. So pot/kettle.

    Meanwhile, I did say that the guy would have to enjoy the challenge of an INTP woman. Perhaps he would be into someone who was basically unimpressed and able to call him on his bullshit. He'd have to respect her, in other words, and earn her respect in return. I don't feel that scenario to be impossible.

    Ah. My comment was not any sort of faith in the potential INTP male/ENTJ female dynamic so much as a contrast to the f4il of the flipside.
    Hadn't taken it as anything other.

    INTP men do seem more docile and passive, so perhaps they deal better with the bossypants. Or maybe y'all are two ships passing in the night.
    As I said, it's hit or miss with INTP guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    My overall impression is it would be an awesome combo for a partnership, but not for a relationship.

    Most of them don't respond well to compliments, and also don't seem to bother thanking people.
    They reject any kind of emotional support/consolation in order to keep their badass image.
    They seem to just bother when people are behaving in a way they don't like (aka bossing around).

    Can work, but will require a good deal of emotional intelligence (from both parties).
    AKA "they don't make me feel like a man."

    Really? "They don't seem to bother thanking people?" Is that a real complaint? Sounds like you like a more uh...traditional lady. If anything the allure of an NT-NT relationship is how free it can be of the more common societal chains of gender expectations. Like an Ivory Tower with a king sized bed and two sinks in the bathroom.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Up Rex View Post
    ENTJs are not so much dogmatic as principled.
    It comes off as dogmatic. To this intp and others.
    And btw, while, ya'll may be more "open-minded" on overall ideas, you can be just as stubborn (and equally vocal about it) when it comes to something that doesn't sit well with you.
    Exactly why it's not a match. There will be clashes. Ugly, unyielding ones. It's "possible" some unique snowflake of an entj man would dig this. I wouldn't hold my breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    Sort of kidding, hence the emoticon. They can be passive-aggressive but they can also be non-passive or aggressive, reliant on context. This is no different from female INTPs.
    There's quite a big difference. Agree about PA, as I've said before, but you should read the "Passive Men" thread @INTPc, it's a riot.
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    From my perspective, there are four lynchpins with INTPs, in no order:
    • Autonomy.
    • Acceptance.
    • Understanding.
    • Safe harbour (which might be the umbrella term for the above three or at least includes elements of them).


    For ENTJs, how does this differ from you, beyond INTPs using withdrawal and ENTJs attempting to control our external environments? Once you figure this one major difference out, INTPs are oh, so similar.

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