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[MBTI General] MN trip notes

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I'll update this thread whenever I have internet access and time.

Yesterday/Friday evening:
- Busy preparing for the trip - laundry, packing, etc.
- Drove up to Mira Mesa on Saturday to go to a barbecue my friends had. Due to this, my last meal in San Diego was Korean barbecue, which is barbecue meat with rice, marinated fish salads (cephalopod with wood ear mushrooms! yum yum!), kimchi, and potato salad (adding a bit of American to the mix).
- At the train station I took a picture of one of the hills to compare, and a couple in the city on the way. It's a bit of a tradition of mine before longer trips.
- I could tell I was at the right gate because there were a lot of improbably-white people with bad sunburns. Like everywhere. I've never seen more people with sunburns in one place.
- My flight was on Sun Country Airlines, which is a MN-based airline.
- The flight attendant that handled the intercom on the plane had the most peculiar accent I've ever heard. I can't even start to describe it. She used some terms that were quite foreign. All the flight attendants were polite.
- The girl sitting next to me was even worse, though. She talked on her cell phone interspersed with some kind of completely foreign terminology, in spite of using what I would describe as stereotypical exaggerated valley girl for the rest of it. I didn't talk to her, because I don't talk to valley girls.
- What is with the midwestern airlines and charging for snacks? All the locals, once again, pulled snacks out of their bags when the drinks came around. I'm totally prepared for SoCal contingencies, but apparently not for here. I think everyone carries some amount of food here, so I might stock my bags and car with food to blend in better.
- Later they came down the aisle with cheeseburgers in little plastic bags. I've never seen anything like this before. My mind is still reeling. It was pretty good, if mild. They were meat, cheese, and pickle on a plain bun. The condiments came on the side. I don't know if this was for varying condiment tastes, or if it was to avoid cooking damage.
- I was going the wrong way on it, and it was pretty obvious. When we landed the flight attendant on the intercom with the over-the-top weird accent told us to have a safe drive home. That'd be quite a drive for me...
- A couple other passengers were complaining about my hurrying off the plane and walking fast...right behind me...where I could hear them. I didn't bother to respond, though one of them said I was cute.
- When I made it down to the baggage claim, file cabinet was there to meet me because I gave him my flight number. He took me to my hotel. Major props.
- The front desk was empty last night, and the auto-checkin didn't work. They said all they had was twins, and I said "that's fine". I'm on the 22nd floor, which is a pretty nice view of the infinite plain all the way out to where the clouds meet the surface. I think I'm looking south-west, because if I look to the far left I can see some kind of building with two visible domes on top (like architectural mammaries), but I can't be certain.
 

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Sunday (Birthday):
- Met up with file cabinet again, and he dropped me at the airport to get my car. He's my hero.
- Ended up with a different type of car (worse average gas mileage, but better highway, so I guess I was in luck) in colors I wasn't really keen on, but I didn't pay extra for the upgrade because they were out of the type of car I reserved. Do these places do this all the time, or is it just me? I ended up with a Chrysler 300 for the price of a Charger, which is 120 dollars less for an 8-day rental. Can't complain about that.
- Went to Mall of America. Failed to find what I was looking for.
- Got lost looking for my car.
- Made it to the hotel without getting lost for the only time on this trip, but thanks to the confusion at MoA, I was a bit late.
- Confirmed meeting Varelse, and told her I'd be late. Bumped it by about a half an hour.
- After getting lost once again (this construction season completely screws up both Google and my GPS), I finally made it there about five minutes late.
- The food was pretty good as Middle-America Chinese Buffets go.
- While there, file cabinet invited me to a barbecue on Monday.
- Apparently I passed some sort of basic test, because her mother invited me back to their house.
- Went for a walk with Varelse in the woods and marshy land behind her house.
- Talked with her mother until 01:00 Monday morning. This might be my first experience of the long goodbye I've heard about, which is 2-3 times as long as a Chinese long goodbye, and 4-8 times as long as the SoCal variant (which is more common in So-SoCal).
- Got myself really lost returning to the hotel. Took 1.5 hours.

Monday:
- Hung out at the hotel until 10:45, checked out, then drove over to St. Paul.
- Met Lateralus and cascademn, then we caravaned over to downtown for the barbecue.
- Ate my first bratwurst. It was delicious, but seemed like it might go good with horseradish or strong mustard. All we had was ketchup.
- Watched people play air hockey and ping pong. I later tried to play ping pong, but I've never been any good at it. I caused the ball to fall 11 stories inside this huge enclosed atrium where we were playing...
- Ate a hot dog after the threat of throwing it out was made. For the record, I didn't call it.
- Talked about many subjects.
- Ran really late on returning to see Varelse again before heading north.
- Hung out a while, played some Portal, and booked a place in Duluth online.
- Drove up to Duluth, got semi-lost a couple times. Thanks to geocaching, I'm pretty good at GPS navigation, so I was able to recover.
- Found out where Minnesotans hide all their hills - they're up here surrounding Duluth.
- Once I finally made it here and went to check in, the front desk guy said "Are you Eric?", and I said, "Yes...how did you know?". He said, "I have four reservations tonight, and I personally know the other three people. Also... *shows me his badge that was hanging on the wall* ... you have a memorable name." (same as mine, including spelling)
- Slept pretty well. Forgot to turn off the alarm on the cell, though, so I didn't get to sleep in to recover as I had hoped. I'll be leaving here within the next hour or so to head to Angle Inlet.
 

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Ha, very cool -- glad about the whole deal with Var and her mom (this is "must-see" TV at its finest)... plus am glad you got to hang with some other folks like Lat and cascade.

I didn't know there were so many people in Minnesota.
 

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:hug: I'm just hoping you had fun here. And that I didn't hit you too hard with the pillow.

:D
 

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If this trend continues I foresee that the day will come when every member of MBTIc is traveling to meet up with everyone else. At which point the whole traveling setup thingy collapses because nobody is home, so the only places members will meet are rest stops and security lines at airports.

But until then I'll continue to enjoy reading reports from the different meetups.
 

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:hug: I'm just hoping you had fun here.
Of course! :hug:

And that I didn't hit you too hard with the pillow.
My head is just ringing a little, nothing unusual. ;)

Running behind due to phone calls and debating whether to stay up there, since they're set up for longer stays with more people at the places up there...
 

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Monday:
- Hung out at the hotel until 10:45, checked out, then drove over to St. Paul.
- Met Lateralus and cascademn, then we caravaned over to downtown for the barbecue.
- Ate my first bratwurst. It was delicious, but seemed like it might go good with horseradish or strong mustard. All we had was ketchup.
- Watched people play air hockey and ping pong. I later tried to play ping pong, but I've never been any good at it. I caused the ball to fall 11 stories inside this huge enclosed atrium where we were playing...
- Ate a hot dog after the threat of throwing it out was made. For the record, I didn't call it.
Wolf, you spend too much time worrying about what people think, instead of just having a good time. I had to practically force you to play ping-pong.
 

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I'm not very coordinated, and I know that, so I tend to avoid things that require coordination and fine motor control.


I ended up choosing to stop in Warroad, which is where I'm at now. After a good sleep, I'll leave early tomorrow to cross the border into Canada, followed by crossing back into the US above the 49th (Northwest Angle), then later tomorrow I'll go back into Canada and return to the US below the 49th.
 

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Tuesday:
- Duluth appears to be the midwest's version of San Francisco (some say Minneapolis/St Paul is, but that's only the cultural stuff). The roads even have the idiotic stop sign placement for which San Francisco is so well known. It's just a little dirtier, more industrial-looking, and has smaller windows due to the winters. Very steep and overlooking a bay.
- Why are there homeless people (or people that look like them) in Duluth? If I was a homeless person I'd get the hell out of a place with weather like that as fast as I could.
- The country between Duluth and International Falls is really scenic. It reminds me of Yellowstone and the High Uintas region in Utah. The only difference is that it lacks geysers and mountains...
- The speed limits are driving me absolutely crazy.
- Saw a deer standing by the road.
- Saw a muskrat doing something by the side of the road.
- The rest I saw was roadkill - a couple skunks, some unidentifiable brown thing, a deer, and something with feathers.
- Ate a mushroom/swiss burger with bacon added, fries replaced with onion rings, and a watered-down pink lemonade at the Dairy Queen in International Falls. This is the first meal I've bought since Friday (people keep feeding me, and hotels provide complimentary breakfasts).
- I questioned the sanity of my GPS receiver and decided to stay in the US rather than go through customs twice to cut about 10 miles off my trip.
- Across the river in Ontario there was a town called "Emo", which I could see a few times while driving down the highway.
- For the first time yet this trip, I found everything I was looking for when I went out shopping. Antiperspirant, razor blades, Vitamin Water, and Funyuns. The bag of Funyuns was larger than I had hoped, but endurable. This maintains my pattern of never buying antiperspirant when I'm in San Diego. For more than a year, it has always run out when I was somewhere else, then I go buy a new one there. Up until this point they always came from the same Rite Aid in Norwalk, CA.
- The plan is to sleep and wake up early, so I can check out early tomorrow and have plenty of time up there to get the point and wander around some before driving south again. I hope to make it to Bemidji sometime tomorrow evening, but that depends on how smoothly the last leg of the trip goes.
- I hate televisions and dislike motels with thin walls...
 

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My impression is that Varlese's folks are pretty conservative and protective. I'm impressed you passed the super secret mom test. :nice:
 

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My impression is that Varlese's folks are pretty conservative and protective.
They are, or at least her mom certainly is. But then I'm rather conservative, myself, especially considering where I live.

I'm impressed you passed the super secret mom test. :nice:
Thanks.
 

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My impression is that Varlese's folks are pretty conservative and protective. I'm impressed you passed the super secret mom test. :nice:

Yes, I am still in awe.

*we are not worthy*



... he must have been smoking some good stuff beforehand.
 

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Wednesday:
- Woke up at 05:35 and got ready.
- Went to Lakeview Restaurant for breakfast, where I had the "Fisherman's Breakfast", only replacing eggs with sausage patties. The waitress said that she couldn't replace them because sausage costs more than eggs, but that she'd take $2 off the meal and add the add-on price for the sausage. I've never seen anyone do that before... It was the only breakfast that mentioned it included walleye, which is the famous fish in the area. It's the best fresh water fish I've ever consumed. Everyone that worked here had the stereotypical upper-midwest accent like they did in the movie Fargo, and ever since then everyone I've spoke with had either that accent or a Canadian accent (which is similar, but a little different).
- My next stop was the local grocery store, which confirms the almost-unreal honesty of the people here - it's the only small town grocery store I've ever seen that didn't have outrageously-inflated prices. I picked up spare batteries just in case I needed them (didn't, but since the ones I had were half-depleted, it was prudent).
- The border crossing was just as crappy as every US/Canada crossing I ever make into Canada in a car... I guess I totally bungle the answers on those crossings...or it could be that every time I cross in a car I have a completely-improbable story. "What is the purpose of your visit to Canada?" "To go to the northernmost point in the continental United States." "Why do you need to enter Canada for that?" "It's at the top of the Northwest Angle." "Do you know anyone in The Angle?" "No"...it just went downhill from there. (Ex: "Where do you live?" "California."..."And you came all the way up here for that?" "Yes"..."Could you please pull off to the right." ... when she meant left, so I got all screwed up. They held me for a little over a half an hour as they rummaged through absolutely everything in my car, checked my passport carefully, looked for warrants, DUIs (they asked me where I lived other than CA, and I got nervous, thinking I might get mistaken for someone else by name only), etc. They dug through and messed up my luggage, looked through the pictures on my camera, searched my laptop and laptop bag, and rifled through every part of the car. I suppose a guy carrying next-to-nothing, with an improbable story, a Saudi Visa, a car far too nice for where they're headed, from another state, in a car with plates that do not match where they're from, etc, etc, etc, is going to be bothered. I'm sure people like that are actually the least likely to be up to something...
- After that ordeal, I forgot where I was going, so I had to go back in and ask directions. They gave me a map and asked me if I knew that I needed to check in at Jim's Corner. I told them I did, and showed them the paper I took from their wall earlier that explained the process. They also informed me that the road was gravel starting just beyond Moose Lake Provincial Park... I wasn't aware this would be a semi-offroad adventure. The gravel road was suitable for highway speeds, though, just as they told me they would be.
- I stopped just before the gravel section and shot some pictures of the car, signs, etc. I got a lot of pictures of signs, animals, the car in various states of unclean, and scenery.
- Saw a lot of animals out there: Deer, beavers, birds of all kinds, walleye, yetis, and quite a few unidentified animals.
- Checking in with the border patrol was entertaining. I mean, what are they going to do if they think you're crazy or don't want to let you back into the US? Especially over a video phone... I talked to her for a while and she didn't seem to be believing me, then she turned on the videophone and asked me more questions, as well as checking my passport with a special high-res camera on the videophone thing. They let me in...but, again, what else could they do?
- After getting into The Angle, I found everything almost completely dead. People live here, and a few were out, but overall the area looked practically abandoned (aside from the fact there were houses). I eventually happened upon a bar and grill place, where I asked if they knew of anywhere I could rent a boat. They said it was a little too early in the season, but if I went all the way to the opposite end of the top of The Angle that there was a place that generally rents them.
- Wandering back, I missed my turn and found myself outside "Jake's Northwest Angle Resort", which looked promising. Either they'd have a boat to rent or know someone that did, so I went inside and found the office, which was deserted at 10:20 in the morning. Some people in a boat at the dock waved to me, I walked over to them, and they told me the owners live over in the end house, but that if I pushed the doorbell on the office that they'd come down. I did so, and about five minutes later a lady by the name of Karen with that upper-midwest accent came out in a golf cart to help us. She asked me what brought me there, and I told her I was looking to rent a boat to get to the northernmost point in the continental United State. She said they have one, but it might not be possible to get to "The Wagon Wheel", showing me a map and mentioning that we need to consult her husband about getting out there. She then excuses herself to help the people in the boat. When the man in the boat came back out of the office he said "good luck, I hope you make it" in a thick French-Canadian accent.
- Her husband, Paul, pops by in a golf cart about ten minutes later as we're reviewing the maps some more and talking about the difficulty of getting there due to the shallow water and the fact there is only a small channel making it up to the point. He says that it might be possible, but he can't guarantee anything, that I'd never be able to follow the channel, but that we needed to try considering how far I came to get up there.
- He also mentions that it is the nicest day so-far this year, and last week it was snowing.
- Luck was with me, as they had exactly one Lund in an operational state and his duck boat. A duck boat is a thin, shallow-draft boat with a wide center that is well-suited for playing in the reeds where you'd find ducks, while also being very stable for standing in/on while shooting. Paul said he'd try to get me there, if it was currently possible, and that he was pretty sure it was as long as you remained in the channel. While I was collecting my equipment, protective clothing, drinking a bit, and hitting the restroom before we go out, he quickly assembled the boats and equipment we needed to get out there.
- We load into the Lund along with Bud (their dog), and start on our short trip of roughly five miles to the northernmost point in the continental US.
- On the trip over, we took a very curvy route across what appeared to be a large inlet as I chatted with Paul...
- Usually the reeds are in the shallow water, and people seldom go up there when they're not up yet. Before leaving, he said if we weren't back in a few hours, we were probably limping back in the duck boat with the tiny outboard because we ran the Lund into something.
- What I learned is that the lake looks quite different from it's appearance when the survey was made that set the border. At that time, the water level of the lake could fluctuate far more than it does today, and it was lower at the time of the survey. The point is actually a small rise in the bottom of the channel that coincides with the depth of the lake at that time. After they dammed the Winnipeg River, they have maintained the lake level above that, so you can't actually set foot on the ground they once stood on when the boundary location was set without getting wet, because it's in about 2-3 feet of water. Instead, the lake extends up into a marsh area that was once dry land surrounded by marsh.
- We talked about quite a few different things that had little to do with the project, but were interesting. I was somewhat surprised by the broad array of subjects he knew beyond local information. He told me about most of what I mention above regarding the point, plus some research I did on it afterward. One thing mentioned he mentioned that I need to remember is a hope for more border crossing checkpoints.
- On the way over we saw a bald eagle nest. As is the custom, this nest was in Canada.
- When we run out of channel, Paul anchors the Lund about a half a mile from the point, draws the duck boat in, and we load in with Bud to make the last short stretch to the point.
- We carefully approach it, and thanks to the really flat land and lack of trees, my GPS is reporting +/-11 feet of accuracy, and we drift within 5 feet of it a number of times. I shot a picture of the GPS as we were coming in, then another after we had drifted a bit off of the coordinates it was giving because I couldn't get my camera to focus due to reflections and settings. I did get one a handful of feet off from the exact point, though, which is pretty close. My track log should show that I passed over the exact spot at least once, and it was within the range of accuracy in any case.
- I stood in two provinces and one US state north of the 49th parallel at once. The only other place you can do this is on a glacier.
- After we took some pictures there, including two of me standing at the front of the boat with the cut in the trees behind me, we headed further up to the "Wagon Wheel".
- The "Wagon Wheel" is actually a huge metal tractor wheel that someone tossed on a piece of land that sticks out from Ontario near the point.
- Getting in here was more difficult than even the point itself, and the little boat was definitely the only way it could be done. He poled the boat in the last little bit through the reeds up next to the wheel itself, where I hopped out and got water in my shoe before walking over to it, where he took a few pictures of me.
- Bud enjoys a run around in Ontario near the wheel while we're there.
- We return to the Lund and cruise back. The entire trip time was about an hour and a half.
- I stop by a little restaurant that I noticed earlier and get a burger. The place was completely dead because it's so early in the season and the middle of the week, so I chat with the waitress while eating. We mostly talk about the weather and border patrol, which drives just about everyone up there nuts. I learn that odd things do happen out there because it's such a remote border region, but that it is rare. She grew up in Warroad, which is where I stayed the night before.
- I heard someone say "uff da" today, which I learned in my research about the area.
- After returning to Jim's Corner to check in with Canada again, they pointed out that I hadn't been up there very long and seemed annoyed. After some more questions they gave me a number and told me to provide it if asked.
- Driving back, I picked up two bottles of Canadian Mountain Dew and two Coffee Crisps - a couple things you can't get in the US.
- At the US border checkpoint they ask me what the purpose of my trip was, and apparently they had heard of me. They riddled me with questions and asked me weird things that made no sense or made comments that didn't add up that I corrected. Once that was over and they had searched my trunk, they sent me on my way. This is the first time I have ever been thoroughly checked at a US border checkpoint. I swear it must be the car, because I don't think they bother guys in pickup trucks that look normal.
- Back in Warroad, I book my next hotel, get directions, buy hand-collected and traditionally-processed wild wild rice, and fill the auto with petrol.
- The trip back had at least one error. Google sent me along these crazy county roads that were very confusing to get to Bemidji (where I am now). Most were almost perfectly straight and went on for miles like that. One went on dead straight for at least 15 miles. That was possibly the most fatiguing thing ever...
- The surface of the earth is all-but flat out there, which makes these perfectly-straight roads possible.
- Many county roads have the same numbers but are in different counties. When you move between counties the number usually changes without telling you. The number of counties I crossed makes this very confusing.
- Crossroads with important county roads are no better marked than crossroads for dirt county roads. If I had known that, I would have set a route in my GPS to follow them. They weren't on the basemap, but Google and my waitress in The Angle told me that was the shortest/fastest route to take. It was over three hours shorter than the route the GPS gave me.
- Ate some wild rice with dinner, since it was the only non-potato starch option on the list of sides. Good stuff, but I have no clue what some of the grains in there were.

First pictures to follow...
 

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First view of Lake of the Woods:
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My trusty steed just as we're leaving the pavement in Manitoba...we won't see any again for another six hours:
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Looking down the road toward The Angle:
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The turn... This sign was like a proper highway sign and was much bigger than the sign that got me on 308 in Sprague to get up here. They don't want us stupid Americans getting lost, I guess:
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This is Jim's Corner, where you must check in when entering and leaving The Angle:
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This is Paul, my guide, with the Lund to the right and the duck boat to the left behind him:
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This is me at the northernmost point in the contiguous-48 states (you can see the tree cut line behind me, which we have along all borders with Canada):
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This is the beauty of the duck boat - much of the tracklog shown here is over water that is about a foot deep. You could wade out here if you were so inclined, but it would be quite a hike:
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I had a hard time getting the camera focused to take this, but here's a shot of the reading at roughly the northernmost point in the contiguous-48 (it's within the accuracy, as you can see) while we were drifting a bit in the boat:
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Here I am at the "Wagon Wheel", which the locals consider the point:
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Here's my steed after we just returned to the asphalt, surprisingly-clean considering where we just went:
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Apparently I missed out on meeting a member that lives in Manitoba, but I wasn't aware they were there or would be interested. Goodness, had I given them the story that I was going up to see a friend and gave them their number they probably would have let me through without the search...
 

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Thursday:
- Left Bemidji at 1100 or so and headed to Itasca State Park, which is something like 40 miles away. Scattered clouds at the time.
- On the way in, I crossed the Mississippi at least thrice.
- These parks totally operate on the honor system if you go in an odd entrance. I had to track down the visitor center to get my day pass for the park. They gave me the handy map and a newsletter. It's really inexpensive, like my dad thinks all national parks should be for locals (or even just Americans). National Parks are often in remote economically-depressed areas where locals just outside the park would have difficulty paying the fees to get in, and many Americans are too poor to reasonably afford the high entrance fees.
- Drove to a turnout and took some pictures. Spring flowers are just starting to bloom. One of the pictures that probably would have turned out the best mis-focused and I didn't notice until I downloaded them. Bummer. Still, some nice ones came from this stop.
- Continued on to the visitor center for the Mississippi headwaters. Took lots of pictures of interesting informative kiosks/signs and the point where Lake Itasca drains into the Mississippi river.
- Ate a piece of blueberry pie.
- Drove around the scenic one-way loop and took pictures of a number of the points of interest along the way (two really big trees, an example forest, scenery, a beaver dam, and some wildflowers).
- It started raining while I was driving it, and everyone disappeared. It was like Minnesotans or tourists to Minnesota are afraid of the rain. It didn't bother me at all, since it was little more than a light misty rain. About an hour later I saw campers high-tailing it out of the park, and had to pull over to let them pass since they were in such a hurry.
- On the way down from there, I crossed the Mississippi again. At this point it was immense, and I know it widens even further as you go down the river.
- Made my way south to St. Cloud, then south-east to the Minneapolis/St Paul area. I think I'm technically in a suburb of St. Paul at this point, which is much more accessible than downtown Minneapolis where I first stayed after getting here.
- Ate pitiful crap for dinner and an entire bag of Funyuns on the way.
- It rained like crazy much of the way. Sometimes so hard that the visibility lowered to a point that I needed to slow down quite a bit.
- I have been trying to figure out what a linguistic oddity on some store signs means - What is "On/Off Sale"? Some places just say "Off Sale" or "On Sale", while some have both combined somehow. It's not something they change, either, as is clear from the fact it is always part of the sign and therefore not easily modified without major effort (weathering proves that they are never changed). Could anyone shed some light on this?
- Unique personalized artifacts are often built and placed in rural locations. An old satellite dish with a smiley face painted on it, unique methods of mounting mailboxes, large semi-abstract found-item sculptures, wheel cover collections, old delivery trucks with things painted on the side left to rot by the side of the road, etc... You could almost navigate by these things if you lived out there.
- Bemidji and the surrounding area is the only really hilly region I saw outside of the north-east region of Minnesota.
- I passed over 1000 miles on the trip this day.

Pictures to follow...
 
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