[ENTP] Behold! The ENTP infected with love.

[EcK]

Honesty and Never a boring moment. Myself. I mean, Ive also never been in a romantic relationship. so this is assumption

So you have no idea what you're talking about then ?

 

[evilrubberduckie]

I like that kind of honesty.

Thank you. I try.

So you have no idea what you're talking about then ?

I have an educated guess on what I am talking about. I know what Im attracted to. I have had crushes.I've been involved in relationship type relations. Im making assumptions based on experience.

 

[EcK]

I have an educated guess on what I am talking about. I know what Im attracted to. I have had crushes.I've been involved in relationship type relations. Im making assumptions based on experience.

Soo.. no idea what you're talking about.
Ok.

It's not crime, I'm not 'making fun of you' just stating you lack the type of realist outlook people with experience have.

I apologize if it sounds a bit brusk. I'm sure
An NF would have found a less brutal way of saying it.
I do agree that you can indeed have an idea of your preferences etc. The thing is there s a difference between attitude and behavior.
For example: many women think that the traits they are looking for in guys are (attitude) actually the traits that gets a guy friendzoned (behavior) etc

This creates cognitive dissonances most people seem unwilling to examine and will rather build an ego safe "its them, not me" (thats for example a large chuck of why 3rd wave feminism exist despite their claims having been debunked long ago). Breaking up their percepton of a topic into several self contradictory systems rather than admitting that they are full of shit.

Here s an example of the result:
I'm a Feminist, but I Like When He Comes on My Face

I picked this one because its more amusing than the rest of the strange stuff ppl think.

 

[evilrubberduckie]

Soo.. no idea what you're talking about.
Ok.

It's not crime, I'm not 'making fun of you' just stating you lack the type of realist outlook people with experience have.

I apologize if it sounds a bit brusk. I'm sure
An NF would have found a less brutal way of saying it.
I do agree that you can indeed have an idea of your preferences etc. The thing is there s a difference between attitude and behavior.
For example: many women think that the traits they are looking for in guys are (attitude) actually the traits that gets a guy friendzoned (behavior) etc

This creates cognitive dissonances most people seem unwilling to examine and will rather build an ego safe "its them, not me" (thats for example a large chuck of why 3rd wave feminism exist despite their claims having been debunked long ago). Breaking up their percepton of a topic into several self contradictory systems rather than admitting that they are full of shit.

Here s an example of the result:
I'm a Feminist, but I Like When He Comes on My Face

I picked this one because its more amusing than the rest of the strange stuff ppl think.

Cosmopolitan. Really?

 

[EcK]

Cosmopolitan. Really?

Yeah it's a bit highbrow. But I think we can move away from cheap publications like scientific american as 99% of the population completely ignore science, facts and basic logic

 

[EcK]

[MENTION=74]digesthisickness[/MENTION] By the way it's not love it's infatuation.
There's no 'obsessive' nature in love in itself. I don't think the ENTP personality type is a very obsessive type. Though infatuation will touch all people more or less in the same way (ie: acting crazy)

 

[chubber]

[MENTION=74]digesthisickness[/MENTION] By the way it's not love it's infatuation.
There's no 'obsessive' nature in love in itself. I don't think the ENTP personality type is a very obsessive type. Though infatuation will touch all people more or less in the same way (ie: acting crazy)

I thought Ne-dom's natural state was "acting crazy"

 

[EcK]

I thought Ne-dom's natural state was "acting crazy"

Thats how we package it fir filistines

 

[chubber]

Thats how we package it fir filistines

They always get the short end of the stick

 

[EcK]

They always get the short end of the stick

Well philistines are interesting.

Technically we are making fun of the victims of an old jewish jenocide for reasons of 'we are the chosen one and our crazy druid priests says the voices in his head (ie: god) tell us to kill all of them despite it being a cardinal sin (except in the case of the 53631431 exceptions)

Anyway.
They're kind of diversifying. They originally where only getting the short and pointing end of the stick. Now it's all about short sticks. Tomorrow the world.

Philistines are going places.

 

[small.wonder]

In case anyone (like me) was super curious about the article in the OP and couldn't find it (since the blog it's hosted at, is no more), you can find it here.

You're welcome.

 

[EcK]

In case anyone (like me) was super curious about the article in the OP and couldn't find it (since the blog it's hosted at, is no more), you can find it here.

You're welcome.

That person doesn't sound at all like an entp

Entps are cool and stuff.

 

[small.wonder]

That person doesn't sound at all like an entp

Entps are cool and stuff.

By "this person", do you mean me, or the author of the linked to article?

If you mean the latter, I understand why you'd say that, but kind of have to disagree-- I do think ENTPs really want to be "cool and stuff" all of the time, which is why feelings of actual deep affection throw them off. You guys aren't used to that, I don't think. So when someone actually fascinates and understands you at a mind/body/heart level, that's when you get the way this article describes.

What are your two cents on that?

 

[EcK]

By "this person", do you mean me, or the author of the linked to article?

If you mean the latter, I understand why you'd say that, but kind of have to disagree-- I do think ENTPs really want to be "cool and stuff" all of the time, which is why feelings of actual deep affection throw them off. You guys aren't used to that, I don't think. So when someone actually fascinates and understands you at a mind/body/heart level, that's when you get the way this article describes.

What are your two cents on that?

Heresy. (I meant the author of the article).
By which I mean the level of insecurity the author displays seems at odds with the entp general demeanor and low fi-ness. On most days I don't even see my feelings as relevant to anything I do.

 

[small.wonder]

Heresy. (I meant the author of the article).
By which I mean the level of insecurity the author displays seems at odds with the entp general demeanor and low fi-ness. On most days I don't even see my feelings as relevant to anything I do.

Yeah, I'm not saying it's an everyday thing at all, quite the contrary. I just started dating an ENTP who isn't like that at all in any circumstance, except with me. It's something I've been investigating, trying to reconcile his confident, funny, idea-fueled outward self with this deep, open vulnerability when we are together-- and yes, it verges on insecurity, when he opens himself up to me like that. The congruent piece is blunt honesty, whether from the mind or from the heart. I think. I love all of it, don't get me wrong.

I should say, the bloke in question is in his early thirties and has done quite a bit of growing in life. He's said that he's never had this kind of openness in relationship, so again, it's not a common thing. When I read the above article, I definitely had several "aha" moments regarding his intimate demeanor with me. I should also note that he's an Sx-first 7.

 

[EcK]

Yeah, I'm not saying it's an everyday thing at all, quite the contrary. I just started dating an ENTP who isn't like that at all in any circumstance, except with me.

He's probably faking it

 

[small.wonder]

He's probably faking it

Lol. You can believe that if you'd like, as clearly you have no context to go on.

 

[ZNP-TBA]

Yeah, I'm not saying it's an everyday thing at all, quite the contrary. I just started dating an ENTP who isn't like that at all in any circumstance, except with me. It's something I've been investigating, trying to reconcile his confident, funny, idea-fueled outward self with this deep, open vulnerability when we are together-- and yes, it verges on insecurity, when he opens himself up to me like that. The congruent piece is blunt honesty, whether from the mind or from the heart. I think. I love all of it, don't get me wrong.

I should say, the bloke in question is in his early thirties and has done quite a bit of growing in life. He's said that he's never had this kind of openness in relationship, so again, it's not a common thing. When I read the above article, I definitely had several "aha" moments regarding his intimate demeanor with me. I should also note that he's an Sx-first 7.

Good job picking out an sx first E7 thirties ENTP. I could only imagine with that's like.

 

[small.wonder]

Good job picking out an sx first E7 thirties ENTP. I could only imagine with that's like.

Haha. I actually didn't realize any of that off the bat, as he identified as INTP (when I met him) and had never heard of Enneagram. It's only been over the process of really getting to know him that he's dug into Enneagram and that I raised the question about his MBTI-- to be completely real, he's still on the fence, settled at xNTP (but he generally always leads with Ne and follows with Ti, not visa versa).

 

[ZNP-TBA]

Haha. I actually didn't realize any of that off the bat, as he identified as INTP (when I met him) and had never heard of Enneagram. It's only been over the process of really getting to know him that he's dug into Enneagram and that I raised the question about his MBTI-- to be completely real, he's still on the fence, settled at xNTP (but he generally always leads with Ne and follows with Ti, not visa versa).

If he's an INTP that's probably slightly better for you. ENTPs have a hard time committing and sticking with things though being 30+ does help mitigate that with a little more maturity. If he is an ENTP then let him be free to pursue other interests in his life (obviously not other women)without demanding that he focus all his attention on you. Otherwise, enjoy the ride.