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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    The goal seems to be to fill the emptiness inside/the lack of personal identity by glomming onto others in a really hardcore way. Then you try to avoid rejection by frantically pursuing the person (stalking, jealousy, imitating, etc) and trying to force them to remain in your life. Not so much by shutting yourself away from people altogether... Not from the experience I now have with (at least) BPD-style behaviours, or from anything I've heard from people who have dealt with it.

    Cutting off from other people entirely sounds more avoidant or extremely introverted.
    That is only one aspect of the disorder and seems to be the most common but there is different manifestations of the disorder.

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    Ok... I'm really not sure what you're asking though. Are you asking how someone with BPD would look/act if they were really withdrawn?
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    We don't know how a person would be if there was no BPD. Perhaps if the disorder were not present there would be more introverted tendencies. That being said, I've never met a person (and god knows I've known some) with BPD who I would consider an introvert.

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    one study concluded these correlations:

    ** = clear correlation, * = some correlation, no * is no correlation. - score means the dimension on the left and positive on the right
    (antisocial = NTP and no I/E correlation)

    jungian analyst concluded these:


    and one study saw these correlations using big5


    and to get some idea how this relates to MBTI, big 5 correlates to MBTI dimensions as such:
    F = high agreeableness, T naturally is low on this
    N = high openness, S low on this
    E = extraversion, I low on this
    J = conscientiousness, P low on this
    Neuroticism is not correlated
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    Reply to old post: Introverts would be the ideal candidate for becoming glommed onto someone else because they have one-on-one relationships. In fact, one has to be an EXTREME INTROVERT to become glommed onto another. So, your fiance was right!

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    Just like Bipolar Disorder, people who suffer from BPD struggle with introversion/extraversion. These people have (sometimes) long episodes of extreme introversion (depression and the like), and episodes charged with extrovert tendencies (manias). J/P is also really difficult to type because the person may quite often feel trapped and unable to act, procrastinate everything and bounce back and fort from one activity to another, looking like a heavy-P person even though they are more J and that's only their anxiety acting. F/T may be of some difficult too, those may be overly emotional, don't have much emotional stability and because they are completely controlled by their emotions one may judge that they are F types, but when taking medications properly or in a more upbeat state, they can appear as cold Thinkers. It is really hard to type someone with these illness because you can't know for sure if that's how they truly are or more just like a reflex of their current mood swing. If the illness is very strong, it is even harder and many times systems like MBTI, Socionics etc don't even apply to those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    one study concluded these correlations:
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    and to get some idea how this relates to MBTI, big 5 correlates to MBTI dimensions as such:
    F = high agreeableness, T naturally is low on this
    N = high openness, S low on this
    E = extraversion, I low on this
    J = conscientiousness, P low on this
    Neuroticism is not correlated
    E = extroversion
    N is somewhat correlate high openness
    F is not agreeableness defiantly.
    J is not conscientiousness, , although it has some correlation.
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    BPD has nothing to do with extroversion or introversion. At the core is abandonment issues and lack of bonding/attachment of a child at an early age. It's very difficult to treat.
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    I think you can correlate enneagram and PDs much better. It has 3 clusters and 9 types.
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    On the "Celebrity Types" website, there is a mild correlation stated (in the author's opinion, of course) for ENFP and Borderline Personality Disorder.
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