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    Quote Originally Posted by htb View Post
    Find the time to watch the first and second seasons of Have Gun, Will Travel. The several episodes written by Gene Roddenberry are plain. Each is uniquely compelling in some way -- usually philosophically, but Roddenberry played with a lot of literary and dramatic elements, including humor. He characterized Paladin as an ENTJ, and so influentially that the seasons following Roddenberry's departure were, however enjoyable, inferior.
    I don't know. I'm also thinking of the many comments from various people I've read about how Roddenberry managed his business behavior and relationships. But you know more about Roddenberry's work than I do.

    It makes me think about the character of Kirk as well. Lenore Thomson labels Kirk as an ENTP... but Shatner is probably an ESTP, playing an ENTP -- which is why I find it hard to be sure. (Shatner is another one who "plays" at being intuitive but really is not, he's rooted in the tangible world.)
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    Actually, I think Kirk is an ESFP, because he's in the world of Sensate possibilities. Kirk is an explorer and takes things as they come, but he doesn't strike me as an "idea" person the way ENxPs do.

    I think the real life William Shatner might be an ENFP because he writes his own novels in the Star Trek universe.

    Star Trek V, the one Shatner wrote and directed, was probably the most conceptually ambitious Star Trek film of the 10 total. The ideas Shatner originally had for the film were quite visionary, but were impractical for the production to allow.

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    Does anyone think Howard Stern is an ENTP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Actually, I think Kirk is an ESFP, because he's in the world of Sensate possibilities. Kirk is an explorer and takes things as they come, but he doesn't strike me as an "idea" person the way ENxPs do.
    He acts like a T, not an F. A TP can seem a bit F, due to the flex. And ExTPs have Fe as their tertiary, so they can be quite charming and seem "F-fy."

    I think the real life William Shatner might be an ENFP because he writes his own novels in the Star Trek universe.
    They're ghost-written. He gives his ideas to someone else who writes them and makes them work. But he's not really a writer. he's just ambitious.

    Star Trek V, the one Shatner wrote and directed, was probably the most conceptually ambitious Star Trek film of the 10 total. The ideas Shatner originally had for the film were quite visionary, but were impractical for the production to allow.
    The movie was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Ambitious? Maybe, but incoherently ambitious. That's the problem when someone like Shatner tries to be too imaginative. N's have developed their imagination and it has internal coherence; Shatner had very broad, very vague ambitions, but no real sense of the interconnection of the ideas (which is what an N *is* good at), which resulted in a movie that was probably the equivalent of what an NT in sixth grade could have put together.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Does anyone think Howard Stern is an ENTP?
    Probably ESTP, but at least we agree on the ExTP part, and I haven't studied him enough to be sure past that.
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    Peter Abelard - ENTP (did I say that already??)

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    Adam Sessler, from X-Play, ENTP (he was also one of the original personalities of TechTV).

    Werner Stengel (renowned roller coaster designer), INTJ

    Sam Raimi, ENTP

    Ben Stein, INTP (he's got that classic INTP monotone, and he's also a professor and lawyer in real life)

    Matt Groening, ENTP

    Woody Allen, INTP

    Dr. Theodore Kaczynski, INTJ (despite being the Unibomber, he's also a brilliant mathematician, and thus known for good)

    Brian DePalma, INTP (his films are noted for a unique artistic style, but also for a lack of humanity in favor of technical aspects)

    Nicolas Cage, xNTJ (judging by most of the characters he plays, at least)

    John Grisham, INTP

    Tom Clancy, ENTJ

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    I think Jasper Johns is INTP. I went to a print retrospective today--after reading quotes and listening to a classmate of his talk, I would not be very surprised if he were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    xD Lol he said "buffoons". That's my second favourite word. My favourite is "damp".


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    heh, I think this is the most quintessentially ENFP post I've ever read.
    I don't wanna!

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    I think Manu Chao, the highly innovative musician and politican campaigner, is ENTP.

    I also think Subcomm...whatever it is Marcos of the Zapatista movement is an NT of some kind. Possibly ENTJ.

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    Some sources say Arnold Schwarzenegger is an INTJ. I could actually believe this.

    Director Paul Verhoeven (Robocop, Starship Troopers) is probably an ENTJ.

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