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    How does the element of time factor into your perspective?

    Western culture seems obsessed with time, and never has enough of it. Yet, nature operates as if time were irrelevant and accomplishes much more in quantity, significance, complexity, and wonder. I've found that since connecting with nature more, time has become my ally rather than my nemesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Here is the place where you can ask anything you want to know about mysticism, spirituality, developing your feeling side and Ni, fairies, polytheism+atheism, talking to trees, psychic ability, etc.; and how it is possible to reconcile all this with being NT.
    Is this NT witch anything like a Bene Gesserit witch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Is this NT witch anything like a Bene Gesserit witch?
    Dunno what that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Dunno what that is.
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bene+gesserit+witch
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    Here is an interesting potential NT witch/alchemist, although she and greenfairy could easily be NF, but who cares!

    I like this, very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Not my thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Not my thing.
    What isn't your thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    What isn't your thing?
    That fictional series or type of witch or whatever. I don't relate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    That fictional series or type of witch or whatever. I don't relate.
    But you could use The Voice on people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    1. As I understand it, there is no source of energy; there is energy all around, and living beings are concentrated energy. Our cells use ATP and all that. Energy comes from atoms vibrating. The complexity just happens and is a passive process- creating order usually takes work. If the temperature is really low, then movement all but stops, and so substances freeze and can be more rigid and ordered, but then there is no change either, and no life. I didn't go past Chem 120-130, so I'm going to have to research this some more (for the second question too); but for my purposes the principle of spontaneous vs. nonspontaneous is in the context of a system involving living beings and sufficient matter and energy for constant change. The whole universe could be thought of as being in constant change because it includes everything, so dynamic systems will eventually effect static systems, but we are specifically talking about life on Earth.
    This doesn't follow, especially the highlighted. Yes, the universe is in constant change, but especially if we confine our view to life on earth, change there has followed a progression from less complex to more complex. Creating more complexity requires an infusion of energy (work), while changing to a less complex and ordered state (greater entropy) releases energy. This is one of the key arguments of so-called "intelligent design" proponents. I am interested in your perspective on it. Can the situation on earth in which the organization of life has evolved to be more complex -- just happen as a passive process?

    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    2. Once again I'm referring specifically to the Earth, which is an environment which has the particular conditions sufficient for life- and so the global ecosystem is the larger system; smaller systems are ones which are going through cycles of balance and imbalance. I would not consider them closed, so the analogy is not direct. However, the principle still applies; life requires a balance to continue, so it will shift to counteract a disturbance if it is to continue, thus restoring the balance. An ecosystem operates in a dynamic equilibrium so to speak. Chemistry is only a small part of the world, focused on chemical components, but the patterns are reflected in a slightly more complex fashion.
    OK, if by "dynamic equilibrium" you mean basically a cycle. The earth is full of cycles. And yes, neither the global ecosystem nor its component subsystems are truly closed.
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