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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    On an entrepeneur level (my line of work)
    INTP's function best in an environment where they can freely create their business ideas without censorship. INTJ's function best in an environment where they can turn ideas into a working practical business models.

    Downside for most INTP's, since INTP's want to completely expose a task for all it encompasses; this is why many INTP's often eventually decide on menial jobs in which their minds are free for themselves. They won't do well unless they are giving the freedom to do well. INTJ's have less problems in their functions with doing well because they can find happiness in the completion of any task. The INTP would not find that same happiness.

    INTJ's are probably suited(struggle less) for a lot more jobs than INTP's.
    Yes, one can see INTPs usually doing that to preserve their intellectual freedom....

    Do you see INTPs faring well in health services, for instance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    No, P's multitask (randomly) in their free time in order to support their thought process, and J's multitask efficiently and mostly do it at work.
    How do you, as an INTP, approach anything close to «work»?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luismas View Post
    Yes, one can see INTPs usually doing that to preserve their intellectual freedom....

    Do you see INTPs faring well in health services, for instance?
    Due to inferior Fe it's definately a possibility, but it isn't very likely unless it's a more behind the scenes job. But in the forefront you probably won't see many INTP's in health services.


    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Orly??
    A rather snarky response to me suggesting that your INTP type could be a good fit if you add your ADD into the picture and might very well change peoples opinions about you not being INTP.

    But could that response be inferior Fe or something else I wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Due to inferior Fe it's definately a possibility, but it isn't very likely unless it's a more behind the scenes job. But in the forefront you probably won't see many INTP's in health services.

    Well, then...do any of you have a method to readily discern INTP and INTJ? Or can you improvise right now to see what we get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luismas View Post
    Well, then...do any of you have a method to readily discern INTP and INTJ? Or can you improvise right now to see what we get?
    As an INTP, I do not, apart from proper observation on the mentioned strengths and weaknesses and their standard state of mind. But maybe INTJ's will be able to answer that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    As an INTP, I do not, apart from proper observation on the mentioned strengths and weaknesses and their standard state of mind. But maybe INTJ's will be able to answer that.
    I'm right here. How would you go on about with the typing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    As an INTP, I do not, apart from proper observation on the mentioned strengths and weaknesses and their standard state of mind. But maybe INTJ's will be able to answer that.
    I'm right here. How would you go on about with the typing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luismas View Post
    How do you, as an INTP, approach anything close to «work»?
    As you say, I like to have jobs where I don't have to expend a lot of energy either thinking or feeling. I want to think about things I'm interested in, and I only have a limited amount of emotional energy. So I really like being a server (if I'm not overwhelmed and screwing up, which just takes practice). I can multitask once I learn to do it efficiently, I work in a pretty environment around food (Si?), I can be on my feet and moving, and I can develop my Fe without having to get too close to people. And it's pretty good money. I like physical jobs. Maybe a lot of INTP's like jobs where they use their brains more, I don't know. I write a lot about philosophy, and I would like to be published and make money that way. I also know a lot about herbal medicine and natural healing, and might want to be a natural health consultant some day. Also once I get good enough at silks I want to perform. Not a typical INXP, but the part about saving your thinking for yourself is I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luismas View Post
    I'm right here. How would you go on about with the typing?
    That process rests mainly on your own shoulders. But a good next step would be to delve deeper than the nuances. So from what I've said in this topic, which side of the spectrum do you most identify with? And what are your reasons behind that identification?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    That process rests mainly on your own shoulders. But a good next step would be to delve deeper than the nuances. So from what I've said in this topic, which side of the spectrum do you most identify with? And what are your reasons behind that identification?
    I tend to regularly structure my environment and make long-term plans, in some aspects, in order to reach goals efficiently...but then I always put them on hold when something more intriguing and relevant comes around. I also tend to lead a very (self) regimented life. These is more like a Judger. However, in many other aspects, I am much like a Perceiver and identify more with the INTP persona than with the INTJ one. It could also be an issue of projection: part of my family are extreme Js , the other part is extremely «P».

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    Enneagram

    Type 1 ** Perfectionism |||||||||||||| 56%
    Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||| 33%
    Type 3 Image Awareness |||||||||| 40%
    Type 4 Individuality |||||||||||||| 60%
    Type 5 Rationality |||||||||||||||| 70%
    Type 6 Anxiety |||||||||||||| 53%
    Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||| 40%
    Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||||| 46%
    Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||||| 63%


    Personality Disorder Test Results

    Paranoid |||||||||||| 50% 50%
    Schizoid |||||||||||||||| 62% 40%
    Schizotypal |||||||||||||| 58% 56%
    Antisocial |||||||||| 38% 46%
    Borderline |||||||||||| 46% 45%
    Histrionic |||||| 26% 35%
    Narcissistic |||||| 30% 40%
    Avoidant |||||||||||| 50% 48%
    Dependent |||||||||| 34% 44%
    Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||||||| 54% 45%



    Cattell 16 Factor Test Results

    Warmth |||||||||||| 38%
    Intellect |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 82%
    Emotional Stability ||||||||||||||| 50%
    Aggressiveness ||||||||||||||| 46%
    Liveliness |||||||||||| 34%
    Dutifulness ||||||||||||||| 42%
    Social Assertiveness ||||||||| 30%
    Sensitivity |||||||||||| 38%
    Paranoia ||||||||||||||||||||| 70%
    Abstractness |||||||||||||||||||||||| 78%
    Introversion |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 86%
    Anxiety |||||||||||||||||| 58%
    Openmindedness |||||||||||||||||||||||| 74%
    Independence |||||||||||||||||||||||| 74%
    Perfectionism |||||||||||||||||| 54%
    Tension ||||||||||||||| 42%

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