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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    @Amargith and @skylights

    Are you just trolling in that particularly ENFP way, or do you have reasoning you can provide to substantiate your claims?
    Well, kind of. To be honest I find it a pointless question, and I think it's relatively clear what you want us to say, so it's satisfying to make a case for the opposite. And given that I live with an INTP, I can tell you he really is way too distractable and quirky to ever be likened to a robot. The thing about Ti is maybe it adheres to logic, but it's also very personal and individual. If you left 3 INTPs one at a time in a room with a bunch of thermostats that were all set to totally different things, I'm sure 15 minutes later you'd come back to all thermostats set the same, but what they're set on is going to be totally different. Ti ensures consistency but only in certain ways. And 1 INTP might end up fiddling with his pocket protector at minute 2 and never end up getting them all set.

    I also don't really think Ni is exempt from consistency much more than any other process. Yes, it depends heavily on individual experience, but if we fully understood its mechanisms of action, we could probably program it into a computer, too. I think the things that make humans chaotic individuals are generally removed from the set patterns of our common thinking processes.

    I kind of want to ask you the same thing though. Are you just trolling in that particularly INTJ way, or do you have a constructive reason for asking this question?

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    Guess what, Riva.

    I'm a lot more intelligent than you.
    I have no intention of being more intelligent than you. So you could have this one. But then again putting it out there like that indicates how really intelligent you are.



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    Riva, you clearly have no fucking clue what I'm even talking about.

    Your interpretation of my post has absolutely nothing to do with why I said what I said.

    Go elsewhere to troll. You're not worth my time.
    For a 28 old INTJ guy you sure know how to take things personally. And not only that, you also know how to act like a little child and call people names and call people fools and idiots when they disagree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I'm not trying to be scary, sweetheart, I just know that you understand us well, and I'm wondering whether you were being serious or joking, and, if you were being serious, what makes you think what you think.
    Flattery will get you everywhere

    I voted on instinct, so I didn't look at the definitions or anything. Having had some time to reflect on my gut reaction, I'll add some nuance and say:


    INTJs are more traditionally robotic, in that they're more likely to do the execute-type stuff that robots are often designed for and gather the empirical data (think the mars robot)

    INTPs are more like...computer type robots, I feel. They're more likely to analyze data and create a logical system out of that. Think big boss brain robot in the Matrix.


    Make sense?


    ...not sure that this explanation is anywhere near what you wanted, expected or hoped for, but there it is. I'm fairly sure other T's will be more up to your standards in this debate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    What makes a person robotic is based on what filters they put their descisions through. Intp's being Ti dom filter everything through thought and rationalization. All the descisions of an INTP can basicly be prompted into and outputted from a computer. Don't take it too literal, INTP's aren't only Ti, but for the sake of arguement.

    INTJ's being Ni doms filter their descision making through introverted intuition. This is not something one could teach a computer to do (as it is based on value assignment that a computer could not calculate), and is therefor not robotic.
    Exactly.

    The INTP mind literally works like a computer.

    It's like "need definition explicitly stated, because without explicit definition computer does not know what anything means..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    Ofcourse there can be INTJ's who have a stronger aux then dom, in which case the rule would not apply, but seeing as the typical INTJ will have Ni as their true dom, in general the statement stands.
    Yeah, but I just don't think Te is anywhere near as robotic as Ti.

    Te doms might be ruthless and efficient, and their could be some "robotic" quality you associate with that, but compared to a Ti dom, their minds simply do not function in the same way that a robots would.

    Slave-driver? Yes.

    Robot? No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    I don't believe the same rules applies to ISTP's and ISTJ's. Since Si is a whole different ballgame than Ni, the ISTJ's ability for repetition due to their Si dom(Which is something a computer can hypothetically simulate), complimented by their Te, would make them the most robotic-like type there is.
    Interesting point about Si...

    Si, I suppose, could be pretty robotic as well.

    Especially, as you said, when backed up by Te...

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    I voted based on my experiences with my husband and one of my best friends who is an INTP. To me, my husband is more robotic because he is so set in his routines... It's like he has a mental checklist he must cross off everything on it before he can relax and unwind. Whereas, my INTP friend is far more relaxed on how he approaches things that need to be taken care of. Plus, from a romantic standpoint, my husband can be very robotic about intimacy. He gets very stuck in the "must hug and kiss on wife" to show her love... When in reality if he'd just say I love you I'd be totally content.

    Bah, I'm having issues conveying the thoughts in my head again, so my explanation sucks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    For a 28 old INTJ guy you sure know how to take things personally.
    Riva, as I have told you before, long before I ever spoke a word to you, or you spoke a word to me, I found you obnoxious.

    And, based on everything I've seen since then, I do not expect anything to change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    I have no intention of being more intelligent than you. So you could have this one. But then again putting it out there like that indicates how really intelligent you are.

    And not only that, you also know how to act like a little child and call people names and call people fools and idiots when they disagree with you.
    There is nothing immature, wrong or unintelligent about calling a spade a spade.

    Some people are more intelligent, some people are less; some opinions are idiotic and foolish, some are not.

    I don't give a shit about your bullshit Fe rules that you think everybody must abide by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    Are you just trolling in that particularly INTJ way, or do you have a constructive reason for asking this question?
    There was really little-to-no trolling intention with this thread.

    I simply wanted to see where peoples' opinions lay, and to generate intelligent, thoughtful discussion of the matter.

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    the title of this thread should be "Who are more "robotic": INTJs or INTPs? INTP is the correct answer, but disagree with me so I can argue with you and question your intelligence!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    There was really little-to-no trolling intention with this thread.

    I simply wanted to see where peoples' opinions lay, and to generate intelligent, thoughtful discussion of the matter.
    Interesting. It came off trolly to me, honestly. Apologies. What is the point, though? Like... my NFPness doesn't really understand. Maybe it's a T debate / truth thing. Like it's interesting to debate just because it's another corner of the universe to define?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Riva, as I have told you before, long before I ever spoke a word to you, or you spoke a word to me, I found you obnoxious.

    And, based on everything I've seen since then, I do not expect anything to change.
    So before you spoke a word to me and I to you, you already made up your mind?

    Goes to show who I am dealing with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    There is nothing immature, wrong or foolish about calling a spade a spade.

    I don't give a shit about your bullshit Fe rules that you think everyone must abide by.
    The person you called a fool initially (gmanyo) went by his definition of what robotic was since you had no definition of your own in the OP. And you called him idiotic. A spade is a spade yes. But idiotic is subjective and in this instance it wasn't idiotic at all because you failed at the OP to give a description. besides you yourself said -

    I prefer to leave these things a bit open-ended
    So he went by his description of it. And then he is an idiot???? Lolz...

    It's not my Fe trying to impose rules on you. I'm just pointing out to you that you missed to make a point.

    Quote Originally Posted by chana View Post
    the title of this thread should be "Who are more "robotic": INTJs or INTPs? INTP is the correct answer, but disagree with me so I can argue with you and question your intelligence!"
    LOLZ

    Chana surely understands you. We idiots obviously don't understand you.

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