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    I say screw the functions and just admit that any type that is intutive is not like a computer because intuitives go by hunches and gut feelings rather than evidence and data like a computer, a feeling type cannot be a robot because robots are non-sentient cold and calculating creatures, a perceiving type cannot be a robot because robots follow a strict set of programming and cannot act spontaneously outside the deliberate constraints of the rules, and an extraverted type cannot be a robot because robots have no need for outward stimulation since they are forced into action solely by the codification data.

    What type are robots then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    I think what goes on with IxTJs, in general (both N and S) is that they are protective of their Fi, or may not even KNOW HOW to express their Fi. I am close (or was close) to an ISTJ who really has trouble with expressing his inner feelings, like getting embarrassed, or being unable to articulate what he's feeling via words, or just not expressing his feelings until it's "too late" as he says...and the only reason, I think, I even know all this is because we communicated so extensively in text, so he could feel more comfortable, I guess, being open with me by writing things out.

    Also, sometimes Si types might look like they are robotic because they are happy with an Si routine, or like they don't feel they owe you a justification, because sometimes they may not realize think that what their Si sees as "just right" isn't necessarily obvious to everyone else's sensory perception. For example, one time my ESFJ ex was outraged that I didn't understand that white washcloths are meant for wiping down the sink, not for bathing, until later he realized this was some Fe/Si association he had (we didn't call it that at the time, I didn't know about Jung) but it was so ingrained into him by his xSTJ mother that white washcloths served that function, I think he actually may have panicked or wasn't even thinking that I might have a different usage for white wash cloths. Of course this is an extreme example, but it happens sometimes with Si types.

    Just like sometimes Fi types just expect you to know that something was wrong or hurt their feelings, and you are horrible for not seeing it.

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    Anyone else enjoying the enactment of the differences between INTJs and INTPs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Not if you weight the functions with a coefficient for what % of cognition they tend to take up.
    True, so are you specifically and exclusively referring to thought process, which you are saying would be Ti dom being more robotic? Or are we including decision making? I was trying to say cognition as I understood it and as it was relevant to the robot analogy was either Ne+Ti (input--> system --> output) vs. Ni+Te (input--> system --> output). My argument is that robots don't really have an internal thought process or cognition; they just do as they are told, i.e. default to Te. So INTJ is the only option for robotic by that logic. True I'm kind of approaching it backwards- is a robot more like INTP or INTJ- but I just don't think it makes sense otherwise unless you are using different definitions of terms.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    As you already said, it depends on how you frame it.

    As Fluffywolf said, the intention of the OP was for the internal frame of reference.

    However, it would not be accurate to say that I did not want to spur a discussion touching on the various frames of reference.

    I argue that only one definition of terms makes sense.

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    Thanks for the vote of confidence @Kaizer, but I'm with andante.

    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    Neither are robotic. INTJs lean towards being E-mo and INTPs, calm.
    “Can a man of perception respect himself at all?”
    ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky

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    What is the MBTI type of that beeping garbage can in Star Wars? That's a robots robot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    What is the MBTI type of that beeping garbage can in Star Wars? That's a robots robot.
    ISTP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    What is the MBTI type of that beeping garbage can in Star Wars? That's a robots robot.
    I think C3PO and R2D2 are both feelers, maybe.

    C3PO is some kind of FJ...I have to think about R2D2. He doesn't even speak.

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