User Tag List

123 Last

Results 1 to 10 of 27

  1. #1
    Tempbanned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Enneagram
    8w9
    Posts
    14,031

    Default Nt's and trouble sticking with things

    I played tons of sports as a kid.

    I would pick something up, get good at it, get bored with it and move onto something else.

    Now I'm finding that I have the tendency to do the same thing at jobs I don't like.

    I love the fact that I'm my own boss now, and that seemed to do the trick as far as making me happy at my job.

    Does anyone else have this problem?

  2. #2
    Senior Member UniqueMixture's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    MBTI
    estj
    Enneagram
    378 sx/so
    Socionics
    esfp
    Posts
    3,038

    Default

    I think this is a source of much conflict for NTs in relationships as well. The sense of "it's my life, I will live it as I wish." I think it gives a lot of drive in the long run if channeled properly.
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

  3. #3
    Tempbanned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Enneagram
    8w9
    Posts
    14,031

    Default

    Yea I can see how it could.

    But man it can be a pain in the ass when you're looking for shitty jobs to hold you over in a shitty economy.

  4. #4
    this is my winter song EJCC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    ESTJ
    Enneagram
    173 so/sx
    Posts
    18,438

    Default

    NTs do seem to have a lot of trouble with boredom, from my experience. My INTJ roommate, last year, had an especially hard time with it... and then she'd be too afraid of doing poorly and embarrassing herself (cough type 1 cough) to try any new things.

    But generally I wouldn't say that what you're describing is a bad thing. The NTs I know who regularly change their hobbies/occupations/locations have really enjoyed it. My dad is INTP and his job path has been extremely irregular, but he did fine in terms of money and was very happy with it. The way I see it, if you have boredom issues, you've got to do what you have to, to fix those issues. Better to change occupations all the time, then to end up like my INTJ roommate and be bored and miserable 24/7.

    Edit: Yeah, in this economy, I guess you're right. But that's where the NTs I know have either gone freelance, like you (and also @Red Herring, if I remember correctly), or they've done lots of interesting things outside of work, or they've found ways to shape their work to fit their needs, which especially works if the NT is in a high position. (My dad did this at his nonprofit job, to a limited extent.)
    ~ g e t f e s t i v e ! ~


    EJCC: "The Big Questions in my life right now: 1) What am I willing to live with? 2) What do I have to live with? 3) What can I change for the better?"
    Coriolis: "Is that the ESTJ Serenity Prayer?"



    ESTJ - LSE - ESTj (mbti/socionics)
    1w2/7w6/3w4 so/sx (enneagram)
    want to ask me something? go for it!

  5. #5
    Tempbanned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Enneagram
    8w9
    Posts
    14,031

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    NTs do seem to have a lot of trouble with boredom, from my experience. My INTJ roommate, last year, had an especially hard time with it... and then she'd be too afraid of doing poorly and embarrassing herself (cough type 1 cough) to try any new things.

    But generally I wouldn't say that what you're describing is a bad thing. The NTs I know who regularly change their hobbies/occupations/locations have really enjoyed it. My dad is INTP and his job path has been extremely irregular, but he did fine in terms of money and was very happy with it. The way I see it, if you have boredom issues, you've got to do what you have to, to fix those issues. Better to change occupations all the time, then to end up like my INTJ roommate and be bored and miserable 24/7.
    Yea, I could see that, but deep down I want to do one thing I at least like (if not love) for a while to invest myself in my future there and reap the benefits of advancement in that field.

  6. #6
    Senior Member UniqueMixture's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    MBTI
    estj
    Enneagram
    378 sx/so
    Socionics
    esfp
    Posts
    3,038

    Default

    Life can be underwhelming at times disco. Remember it is just a time in your life. Diligence will maximize your potential You deserve to be happy bro. Just stick with it and find some safe fun to help you socialize and blow off stress.
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

  7. #7
    Superwoman Red Herring's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    MBTI
    INTP
    Enneagram
    5w4 sp/sx
    Posts
    5,647

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    NTs do seem to have a lot of trouble with boredom, from my experience. My INTJ roommate, last year, had an especially hard time with it... and then she'd be too afraid of doing poorly and embarrassing herself (cough type 1 cough) to try any new things.

    But generally I wouldn't say that what you're describing is a bad thing. The NTs I know who regularly change their hobbies/occupations/locations have really enjoyed it. My dad is INTP and his job path has been extremely irregular, but he did fine in terms of money and was very happy with it. The way I see it, if you have boredom issues, you've got to do what you have to, to fix those issues. Better to change occupations all the time, then to end up like my INTJ roommate and be bored and miserable 24/7.

    Edit: Yeah, in this economy, I guess you're right. But that's where the NTs I know have either gone freelance, like you (and also Red Herring, if I remember correctly), or they've done lots of interesting things outside of work, or they've found ways to shape their work to fit their needs, which especially works if the NT is in a high position. (My dad did this at his nonprofit job, to a limited extent.)
    Oh god, yes! I always claim that I haven't been bored in 20 years, but that is only due to some coping strategies I developed.

    I'm probably not the inly INTP for whom repetition means torture. Back in school there was no homework I hated as mucb as "transfer these 20 sentences into the past tense" and the like. I started varying my handwriting or even changing the color of the pen, even using very long and compley sentences as examples for certain grammatical phenomena to build little stories out of them... just to give it some form of variety. *moans*

    I started a dozent hobbies but never really systematically went through with any of it. I do finish a book once in a while, but the normal thing is to read 4-5 at the same time or to start one, drop it, start another one, drop it, rinse and repeat. Right now I am officially reading three novels at the same time and have three more text books on my night table that are waiting to be worked through.

    At the university I started a bunch of optional classes, many outside my own field, and dropped at least half of them by midterm. When I spent half a year working an office job after graduation it was a slow death. i hated every single day of it. There were many reasons for that but one of them was the monotony and lack of intellectual stimulation (it was mostly administrative work and getting others to do the sort of work I would have liked to do myself). As a freelamcer I at least have a lot of variety of topics (a lot of law, a lot of commerce, some medicine, some food, some engineering, some advertisement) and since I am working from home at my own schedule I can multitask and watch tv and/or read stuff online while translating. And while it might slightly slow me done (I'm aware of that) I do need this additional stimulation, I think. I need to have at least one additional source of input (tv, dvd, forum, news website,...) next to the translation I'm working on.

    The main reason I applied for the diplomatic sevice (passed the national written exam but gloriously failed the psychological interview at the ministry) was that they have you move to another country and work in another sector (culture, law, economics,...) every 3-4 years. That sounded so awesome. It's probably a good thing that didn't work, I wouldn't ahve been happy there for different reasons, out but it sounded enormously attractive at the time.

    I also work as an interpreter and have a favorite customer that calls for me every few weeks or so to translate meetings with foreign suppliers. The conversation always follws exactly the same script. They are very nice, it is easy money and I feel comfortable doing it since by now I could basically do the meeting singlehandedly and ask the questions myself instead of just translating them. But it has also reached that point where I sort of whidh for some variety, for something odd to happen because these meetings have become so repetitive and stopped being a challenge.


    Don't get me wrong. There are strong disadvantages to not being an expert in anything and only dable on a bunch of areas. And I'm not claiming to be supersmart or anything, not at all. I'm just saying that there are many, many things that interest me or in which I can develop an interest when facing them but it rarely lasts. And I am constantly disappointed at my own lack of persistance and low level of skills. It's like there are many things I have put my nose into but hardly anything I'm actually good at.
    It's "get the basic concept and move on". From what I have read, this is pretty much picture book INTP MO, so maybe others can relate.

    I envy and admire people who have the discipline and strength of will and inner focus to hold a regular job, be great at it and become an authority in their field without going "oh, look, a squirrel!!!" at the first chance they get. People who really master a skill.

    The dirty little secret of course in a world with little stability that is oozing with P-style improvisation, a messed up circadian rythm and unsafe freelance work is that I sometime do cling to relief Si as a counterweight. Having a few odd habits gives me something to hold on to in an otherwise rather chaotic life style. It's like a kind of Northern Star.

    Some interests (and even fewer people) are part of that Si-ish framework that holds all this mental chaos together.

    /tl;dr

    summary:
    All work and no play makes RH a dull INTP
    The good life is one inspired by love and guided by knowledge. Neither love without knowledge, nor knowledge without love can produce a good life. - Bertrand Russell
    A herring's blog
    Johari / Nohari

  8. #8
    Tempbanned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Enneagram
    8w9
    Posts
    14,031

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    Oh god, yes! I always claim that I haven't been bored in 20 years, but that is only due to some coping strategies I developed.

    I'm probably not the inly INTP for whom repetition means torture. Back in school there was no homework I hated as mucb as "transfer these 20 sentences into the past tense" and the like. I started varying my handwriting or even changing the color of the pen, even using very long and compley sentences as examples for certain grammatical phenomena to build little stories out of them... just to give it some form of variety. *moans*

    I started a dozent hobbies but never really systematically went through with any of it. I do finish a book once in a while, but the normal thing is to read 4-5 at the same time or to start one, drop it, start another one, drop it, rinse and repeat. Right now I am officially reading three novels at the same time and have three more text books on my night table that are waiting to be worked through.

    At the university I started a bunch of optional classes, many outside my own field, and dropped at least half of them by midterm. When I spent half a year working an office job after graduation it was a slow death. i hated every single day of it. There were many reasons for that but one of them was the monotony and lack of intellectual stimulation (it was mostly administrative work and getting others to do the sort of work I would have liked to do myself). As a freelamcer I at least have a lot of variety of topics (a lot of law, a lot of commerce, some medicine, some food, some engineering, some advertisement) and since I am working from home at my own schedule I can multitask and watch tv and/or read stuff online while translating. And while it might slightly slow me done (I'm aware of that) I do need this additional stimulation, I think. I need to have at least one additional source of input (tv, dvd, forum, news website,...) next to the translation I'm working on.

    The main reason I applied for the diplomatic sevice (passed the national written exam but gloriously failed the psychological interview at the ministry) was that they have you move to another country and work in another sector (culture, law, economics,...) every 3-4 years. That sounded so awesome. It's probably a good thing that didn't work, I wouldn't ahve been happy there for different reasons, out but it sounded enormously attractive at the time.

    I also work as an interpreter and have a favorite customer that calls for me every few weeks or so to translate meetings with foreign suppliers. The conversation always follws exactly the same script. They are very nice, it is easy money and I feel comfortable doing it since by now I could basically do the meeting singlehandedly and ask the questions myself instead of just translating them. But it has also reached that point where I sort of whidh for some variety, for something odd to happen because these meetings have become so repetitive and stopped being a challenge.


    Don't get me wrong. There are strong disadvantages to not being an expert in anything and only dable on a bunch of areas. And I'm not claiming to be supersmart or anything, not at all. I'm just saying that there are many, many things that interest me or in which I can develop an interest when facing them but it rarely lasts. And I am constantly disappointed at my own lack of persistance and low level of skills. It's like there are many things I have put my nose into but hardly anything I'm actually good at.
    It's "get the basic concept and move on". From what I have read, this is pretty much picture book INTP MO, so maybe others can relate.

    I envy and admire people who have the discipline and strength of will and inner focus to hold a regular job, be great at it and become an authority in their field without going "oh, look, a squirrel!!!" at the first chance they get. People who really master a skill.

    The dirty little secret of course in a world with little stability that is oozing with P-style improvisation, a messed up circadian rythm and unsafe freelance work is that I sometime do cling to relief Si as a counterweight. Having a few odd habits gives me something to hold on to in an otherwise rather chaotic life style. It's like a kind of Northern Star.

    Some interests (and even fewer people) are part of that Si-ish framework that holds all this mental chaos together.

    /tl;dr

    summary:
    All work and no play makes RH a dull INTP
    What you did with classes I did with activities and social commitments.

    School was so easy by college that I stopped giving a fuck entirely by about junior year.

    Law school was hard enough, but I just didn't like law enough. I was still in love with politics.

  9. #9
    my floof is luxury Wind Up Rex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    MBTI
    ENTJ
    Enneagram
    853 sx/sp
    Posts
    4,983

    Default

    @DiscoBiscuit, in a perfect world where all things were possible, what would you be doing right now career-wise?
    And so long as you haven’t experienced this: to die and so to grow,
    you are only a troubled guest on the dark earth

  10. #10
    Tempbanned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Enneagram
    8w9
    Posts
    14,031

    Default

    Mid level policy staffer in Marco Rubio's Senate office.

Similar Threads

  1. [NT] NTs, how do you deal with Reality...
    By rivercrow in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 40
    Last Post: 06-15-2010, 08:45 AM
  2. someone to type and fix relations with
    By UnitOfPopulation in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 09-15-2009, 02:55 PM
  3. [NT] NT's and fluffy clouds :o)
    By labyrinthine in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 40
    Last Post: 01-31-2008, 12:18 PM
  4. [NT] NT's and cheating
    By GirlAmerica in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 12-20-2007, 09:37 PM
  5. [NT] The NT Rationale and Rightness
    By Spartan in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 09-20-2007, 05:28 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO