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    Quote Originally Posted by FineLine View Post
    Actually, for purposes of my analysis, it wouldn’t matter whether you’re an ENTP or ENFP. Both have Ne as their Dominant and Si as their inferior. So they are both going to have problems finding closure on issues. That is, Ne keeps things open-ended for both ENTPs and ENFPs and results in problems with “MY MIND JUST WON'T STOP!”

    So both need to learn to use their Auxiliary judging function (Ti or Fi) to analyze things to the point of closure and then embrace those closed issues as Si bedrock to be accessed for quick rules and resolutions.

    The only difference between ENTPs and ENFPs, then, would be in how they find closure on issues: Analysis (Ti) or Ethical decisions (Fi). [Edit:] There's not actually much difference between the two. Ti and Fi both work they same way; they just use different filters.

    Anyway, go to PersonalityPage.com for more on this approach. The "Personal Growth" page for ENFPs tells how to develop Fi, and the same page for ENTPs talks about improving Ti.
    Wait. It says that ENTP's need to analyze and ENFP's need to figure out how they feel about certain things. So only Ti is analytical, not Fi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    Wait. It says that ENTP's need to analyze and ENFP's need to figure out how they feel about certain things. So only Ti is analytical, not Fi?
    Both Ti and Fi are judging functions. They both analyze perceptions received from the outside world (that is, received through Ne in the case of ENFPs and ENTPs), and they both reach closure (a judgment) on those perceptions.

    But they analyze perceptions through different filters. Ti analyzes perceptions by grinding them through a flow chart of logical principles to reach an intellectual judgement. Whereas Fi analyzes perceptions by grinding them through a flow chart of personal values or ethical “feelings” to reach an emotion-based judgement.

    I put “feelings” in quotes in the latter instance because it’s not so simple as “I like it” or “I hate it” or “I feel happy.” It’s more along the line of “Do I think that’s fair?” “Everyone else does it that way...but is that enough justification for me?” “How would I feel in that person’s shoes?”

    BTW, I’m a little rusty at this function stuff. Others will probably chip in on how they think Fi and Ti work.

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    So what the hell is wrong with me then?
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    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    @Doctorjuice

    So what the hell is wrong with me then?
    apart from being an eneagram 6 ?
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
    ... In theory.

    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
    Richard Feynman's last recorded words

    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
    Mencius (Meng-Tse), 4th century BCE

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