User Tag List

First 91011121321 Last

Results 101 to 110 of 237

  1. #101
    pathwise dependent FDG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    MBTI
    ENTJ
    Enneagram
    7w8
    Socionics
    ENTj
    Posts
    5,908

    Default

    Definitely add another vote for ESTJ.
    ENTj 7-3-8 sx/sp

  2. #102
    Protocol Droid Athenian200's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    4w5
    Posts
    8,828

    Default

    The type I seem to have run into the most problems with is INFP, actually. But there are INFPs I get along with, so I don't really know what to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    Whatever type tends to take their limited subjective experiences as objective reality.
    What ever type that is, I think that's the my least favorite type as well.

  3. #103
    Freshman Member simulatedworld's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w6 sx/so
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    5,554

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    My least favourite type is an unhealthy one. Healthy individuals from all types, rock.
    An NF would say that.

    As for me, ESTJs without a doubt. Fuck 'em all, they can go straight to hell with all their hypocritical moralizing and condescending Captain I-Know-What's-Best-For-You-Don't-Argue bullshit. Seriously, if you're an ESTJ, fuck you. (Just kidding on that last part.)

  4. #104
    Freshman Member simulatedworld's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w6 sx/so
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    5,554

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    The type I seem to have run into the most problems with is INFP, actually. But there are INFPs I get along with, so I don't really know what to say.



    What ever type that is, I think that's the my least favorite type as well.
    How? INFPs are among the most adaptable, flexible and understanding types. It seems to me that if you don't get along with them, it's either because:

    --You are an ST type who has to work with too many INFPs at your job or at home or in some other place, and thus your task-related conflicts with them stick out in your mind a lot more than the social, personal interactions.

    --You are are an ESTJ and can't stand "them fag little pussy bitches"


    INFPs make more effort than any other type to be open to, understand, empathize with and appreciate the ideas and opinions of others...if you don't get along with them, you must be actively trying not to.

  5. #105
    Freshman Member simulatedworld's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w6 sx/so
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    5,554

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalMethod View Post
    What type do you least like and why? This is for other NTs, but I'm interested to what other people might have to say.

    For me I have really come to not like darker ENFJ.
    What I despise is they tend to use their excellent social skills to control others, the whole manipulative factor is just a taboo for me, like using your powers for evil or something along those lines. Of course INTJ might use their powers for evil too... but the whole social manipulation of others just seems down right wrong to me, especially if one is aware of what they are doing.
    Do you watch the Showtime series Dexter? This is really a shot in the dark, but I noticed that you're INTJ, as is Dexter, the title character, and in the 3rd season he comes into very serious conflict with an ENFJ friend who gets progressively darker and more manipulative as the season carries on.

    Anything at all or am I just totally off base here? =P

  6. #106
    Freshman Member simulatedworld's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w6 sx/so
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    5,554

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    The type I seem to have run into the most problems with is INFP, actually. But there are INFPs I get along with, so I don't really know what to say.



    What ever type that is, I think that's the my least favorite type as well.
    Guess what type is worse than all others about taking his limited subjective experience as objective reality, and moreover, INSISTING that everyone else structure their lives based on these obviously flawless perceptions?

  7. #107
    Protocol Droid Athenian200's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    4w5
    Posts
    8,828

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    An NF would say that.

    As for me, ESTJs without a doubt. Fuck 'em all, they can go straight to hell with all their hypocritical moralizing and condescending Captain I-Know-What's-Best-For-You-Don't-Argue bullshit.
    What's interesting is that I attribute much of what you just said about ESTJs to INFPs. From my perspective, INFPs do this all the time, they're just doing it subtly and in such a way that they LOOK empathetic, open-minded and adaptable. I could be wrong, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    How? INFPs are among the most adaptable, flexible and understanding types. It seems to me that if you don't get along with them, it's either because:

    --You are an ST type who has to work with too many INFPs at your job or at home or in some other place, and thus your task-related conflicts with them stick out in your mind a lot more than the social, personal interactions.

    --You are are an ESTJ and can't stand "them fag little pussy bitches"


    INFPs make more effort than any other type to be open to, understand, empathize with and appreciate the ideas and opinions of others...if you don't get along with them, you must be actively trying not to.

    No, I am actually referring to social, personal interactions, as well as philosophical standpoints. I've found that they have a certain arrogance about the value of their experience, and a tendency to idealize all their feelings in such a way as to subtly imply that certain things are correct and universal for everyone in an ethical sense, that people have an inherent nature that is based on things that, to me, seem arbitrary.

  8. #108
    Glycerine
    Guest

    Default

    Well, most individuals with extremely expressed traits drive me nuts like strong E, S, F, T,J or P. Out of all of those I can't stand J or P.

  9. #109
    Revelation Lauren Ashley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    4 sx/sp
    Socionics
    EII
    Posts
    3,067

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    How? INFPs are among the most adaptable, flexible and understanding types.
    Until you violate whatever values their Fi holds.

  10. #110
    Freshman Member simulatedworld's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Enneagram
    7w6 sx/so
    Socionics
    ILE
    Posts
    5,554

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Meatbot View Post
    ESTJ: You will follow my rule because we've always done it that way.
    ENTJ: No. My rule is more efficient. You will follow my rule.
    Me: No. Both rules suck. I'm not going to listen to either of you.

    My least favorite is the ENTJ, and for much the same reason you dislike the ESTJ: I don't want to follow your rules and you try to make me follow them. Your rules may be slightly more justifiable and efficient than those of the ESTJ, but they don't work for me and I resent the attempts at control. I work best when doing things my own way.

    But the ENTJ is worse than the ESTJ because they actually enjoy telling you what to do, while the ESTJ sees it as their duty. ENTJs come off as extremely narcissistic and controlling. They are too much into methodologies instead of results. Who cares how I do it as long as I get the results you want?

    Second worst is the ESFJ, with their anal-retentive BS.

    Any EJ is bad. They all know how it should be done and they all want to tell you.

    ESTPs can be cocky assholes.

    Lots of good points here. Only thing I would say is that ENTJs are certainly more results-oriented than ESTJs; both can be annoying at times but I prefer the ENTJ supervisor because, since he's more into the future end result, he's at least conceptually open enough to let me get things done my own way if I can prove to him objectively that my method works to get the job done on schedule.

    ESTJs are more sheeplike--they become extremely petulant over the tiniest variations in procedure (THAT'S NOT WHAT THE BOOK SAYS TO DO!!!), and not only that, they take it as a personal insult if anyone tries to challenge THEIR AUTHORITY IN DOING THE JOB RIGHT. Even polite suggestions to improve efficiency are seen as blatant insults to the traditional authority structure--if your suggestion doesn't stick exactly to every letter of the standard procedure, then you can fuck right off and take your bad attitude toward authority with you! I'M THE BOSS AND I KNOW HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE RIGHT.

    Remember that their inner voices are "should" and "ought"; the ENTJ's inner voices are "what if?" and "make a plan to find out how we can do this more efficiently!" Consequently, the ENTJ is much more open to suggestions about conceptual methodology (though not as open to changing plans as an ENTP) because for her, procedure is merely a means to an end--the end being whatever overall goal she is trying to lead everyone toward. If the means can be altered in a new way such that the end can be achieved more efficiently, all the better! Just show me how you're going to do it and let me make sure the concept makes sense (says the ENTJ.)

    Results are important to ESTJs, too, but they ONLY want to get there via the standard procedure--procedure acts as a stabilizing force for them and is an end unto itself. If the ESTJ carried out all orders literally and precisely as they were given, s/he doesn't feel responsible if the results don't come out as intended. After all, he did everything he was supposed to!

    The ENTJ, on the other hand, will be more upset about these failures to achieve the desired results because s/he will feel he could have/should have done more to modify and improve the efficiency of the system that ultimately ended up failing. In my experience, neither ESTJ nor ENTJ is very easy to convince of anything most of the time, but if I take the time to prepare a new, rational, helpful plan for the way we conceptualize our goals, the ENTJ will eventually listen if I keep politely hammering the point home.

    I can deal with this and their broader, more conceptual/abstract focus a lot more easily than I can with the exceedingly singular, even less flexible focus of an ESTJ, a lot of the time.

    The ESTJ will never, ever, ever, ever listen to anything that suggests a fundamental change of perspective on the task or a restructuring of the traditional procedure or authority structure. The world of "what if?"s and abstractions about possibilities is both uncomfortable and threatening to them.

Similar Threads

  1. [JCF] What type do you think I am? Most likely IxFP.
    By DBPhenomE in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 06-18-2017, 06:51 AM
  2. What type do you try to look like when you are obviously not?
    By Elfboy in forum Popular Culture and Type
    Replies: 78
    Last Post: 09-13-2015, 04:26 AM
  3. What type do I seem like to you?
    By gromit in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 05-20-2014, 08:05 PM
  4. [MBTItm] xNFPs what types do you feel understand you like no other.
    By angelhair45 in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 46
    Last Post: 07-05-2010, 09:17 AM
  5. [INTJ] INTJs which NT type do you least like?
    By Riva in forum The NT Rationale (ENTP, INTP, ENTJ, INTJ)
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 04-27-2009, 07:31 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO