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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    From a sociological perspective, they usually aren't.
    Was this rational?


    But I must admit, the thread title was meant to be ironic. Satisfied?
    my INTP friend who has a PhD in Kantian philosophy would surely disagree with you, as would many lawyers who are Thinking types. A T type with no ethical development is just as imbalanced and immature as a Feeling type with no Thinking. But of course you're rejecting Fe in this moment.

    The real problem is that you want a very particular kind of response from a singular Si perspective and you got alternative perspectives so you're irrationally pissy though its your own fault for having an imprecise title. Your question really is about purchasing expensive gifts, not birthdays. There's nothing "ironic" about that.

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    you do realize after the age of 12 that people tend to stop caring about your birthday
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    I've come to the conclusion that the price we all pay to feel more special once a year is very high.

    Reasons:

    -It's a lose-lose situation. The other person would usually know how to spend the money you spent on the gift for him much better than you, and vice-versa when your birthday arrives.

    -Imbalances are frequent. Sometimes you give someone a $80 gift on his/her birthday but the person gives you a $20 one. Btw, this doesn't mean it won't remain a lose-lose situation, since his/her reputation in the group will likely be affected.

    -We spend a lot of time wondering about what we should buy, with traffic, waiting for our turn to pay, etc. We could use this time to do a lot of important things.

    -As soon as you forget that a given day is someone's birthday, they start thinking you don't care about them as much as they care about you.


    What do you think?
    I think this thread is irrational.

    Edit: The fact that the concept of "imbalance" in gift giving is on here says a lot more about you and your values than the whole concept of birthdays to begin with. If you view friendship in terms of what you get versus what you give with a checkbook of deposits and transactions to see if things are "in balance", how unfun of a friendship is that.

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    Should have put it in the nt private forum. I'm not seeing many valid arguments here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post


    Should have put it in the nt private forum. I'm not seeing many valid arguments here.
    Shouldn't the OP be valid as well?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
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    No need to waste my time arguing.
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    haight's an NT just pointing that out.

    btw I love when NTs can't come up with a counter argument and start claiming the opposing side is irrational. dude just admit you might be wrong.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    you do realize after the age of 12 that people tend to stop caring about your birthday
    that is a very cultural or individual presumption to make. My family has huge parties on all landmark birthdays (16 18 21 30 etc) and recognizes all birthdays. My Argentinian friends have big dinner parties on everyone's b-day, and even for the elderly grandparents invest in dinner and gifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    that is a very cultural or individual presumption to make. My family has huge parties on all landmark birthdays (16 18 21 30 etc) and recognizes all birthdays. My Argentinian friends have big dinner parties on everyone's b-day, and even for the elderly grandparents invest in dinner and gifts.
    jeefus. I'm not talking about close family or friends I'm talking about strangers.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    No need to waste my time arguing.
    i never guilt tripped you. I refuted the loopholes in your one track limited perspective. And now you're acting butthurt. Ur so rational! I still think its your tertiary Si that is acting up.

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