[NT] Birthdays are irrational.

[Xenon]

Lol. I could do without all holidays where you're expected to buy someone something. Even if it's someone I'd enjoy doing something nice for, I'd rather surprise them when I feel like it. Having to do it on a certain day can set up expectations that may not be met...

Birthdays can be a good time, if used spend time with the people in your life or do something nice for yourself.

 

[lunalum]

Also, being born is a pretty big deal, in the grand scheme of things, is it not?

 

[The Great One]

Also, being born is a pretty big deal, in the grand scheme of things, is it not?

Yeah, I mean it's not like people celebrate people's death day.

 

[lunalum]

Yeah, I mean it's not like people celebrate people's death day.

That's the end of the party, whereas birthdays are the beginning.

 

[The Great One]

That's the end of the party, whereas birthdays are the beginning.

Exactly. And who wants to celebrate someone's death anyway. Lol though ironically I used to have a doctor that I went to and he died. He died of alcohol poisoning and he had a very nontraditional funeral. At his funeral everyone dressed in Hawaiian clothes and sipped cocktails and they even played Jimmy Buffet's "Margaritaville". LMAO!

 

[Haight]

irrational

"I don't think that word means what you think it means."

Following a cultural norm seems rational to me. I guess you could believe that human nature is not rational, but then that would be an irrational position seeking to analyze the rationality of another.

 

[Laurie]

I think adults celebrating birthdays is kind of silly although I do plan to go out for my "important" birthdays. I'm not sure anyone even gives me gifts.

I celebrate my kid's birthdays because I want to. I did an awful lot of work and I'm celebrating the anniversary of it.

 

[Rasofy]

Also, being born is a pretty big deal, in the grand scheme of things, is it not?

I could argue that Earth's mass remains stable.

"I don't think that word means what you think it means."

Maybe, but I think you're wrong.

Following a cultural norm seems rational to me. I guess you could believe that human nature is not rational, but then that would be an irrational position seeking to analyze the rationality of another.

I'm not talking about the value of following a cultural norm, I'm talking about the value of the norm itself.

 

[The Great One]

I could argue that Earth's mass remains stable.

Well we do have Earth day you know, lol.

 

[UniqueMixture]

You know what, fuck you. I love my bday and I held it at dave and vbusterd. If you don't like it go kill yourself

 

[prplchknz]

You know what, fuck you. I love my bday and I held it at dave and vbusterd. If you don't like it go kill yourself

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

I don't give or receive b-day presents becauseit is a waste. Fortunately it is not often an issue socially.

 

[Haight]

I'm not talking about the value of following a cultural norm, I'm talking about the value of the norm itself.

Oh, I thought this thread was about how birthdays are "irrational." I guess it's about values now.

 

[Rasofy]

Oh, I thought this thread was about how birthdays are "irrational." I guess it's about values now.

Good job.

 

[Thalassa]

Celebrating an individuals life is perfectly rational. Fe and Fi are rational functions. It connects us to a fundamental human appreciation for life, and celebrates individuality, an important Enlightenment ethic.

You, on the other hand are talking about some logical cost-benefit analysis that has nothing to do inherently with birthdays or human relationships but instead self-absorbed capitalism. Way to get mixed up, bro. Throw a party or cook dinner or bake a cake, or simply wish your friend well and stop bitching about expensive gifts.

 

[Rasofy]

You, on the other hand are talking about some logical cost-benefit analysis [...]

Did you stop to contemplate why I put it in the NT Rationale subforum?

 

[lunalum]

Plus, cake is a highly rational benefit

 

[Thalassa]

I could argue that Earth's mass remains stable.

Maybe, but I think you're wrong.

actually Haight is right. From a Jungian perspective ethics and cultural norms are rational. After all they keep human life running smoothly. You mean "logical."

 

[Thalassa]

Did you stop to contemplate why I put it in the NT Rationale subforum?

i explained to you an alternative solution to your "problem" as well as showing you that you're inaccurate in your generalizations of birthdays from a different rational perspective. Of course, INTPs in Ti/Si loops are absurdly closed minded and I suppose view Ni as a critical parent and Fi as demonic.

 

[Rasofy]

From a Jungian perspective ethics and cultural norms are rational.

From a sociological perspective, they usually aren't.
Was this rational?

But I must admit, the thread title was meant to be ironic. Satisfied?