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    Default Education vs Intellect

    It seems a lot of people have a deluded sense of what education is, and what intellect/intelligence truly is. So let's see how many of you can actually decipher the two, Because this world was built on one of the two, and it sure as hell wasn't education.

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    intellect is the ability to grasp information and make something useful of it... whether it's an idea or an object

    education is just the information part

    someone with intellect but lack of education has the ability to do some pretty impressive things in a self taught manner, while someone with an education but no intellect isn't any better off for it

    I know plenty of people who fall into either or both categories... they preform about as expected
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    Without intelligence, you won't be able to gain much from education. There's a symbiosis. It should be noted that education is much more than what you learn at school.
    But perhaps you could explain your theory first? Why isn't education as important as intellect?
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    education offers information, intelligence enables you to use this information well
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    intellect is the ability to grasp information and make something useful of it... whether it's an idea or an object

    education is just the information part

    someone with intellect but lack of education has the ability to do some pretty impressive things in a self taught manner, while someone with an education but no intellect isn't any better off for it

    I know plenty of people who fall into either or both categories... they preform about as expected
    Actually, at least in america this is not true. Higher education rates are correlated more greatly with higher income than with iq. The converse is true in the scandinavian countries
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    the challenge is always applying information to use. If you want to learn, then you have to know how to use it in real life.

    The problem with education is that it does not favor independent thinking and is standardized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UniqueMixture View Post
    Actually, at least in america this is not true. Higher education rates are correlated more greatly with higher income than with iq. The converse is true in the scandinavian countries
    though in many cases this is because a college degree is REQUIRED for more highly paying jobs... not to mention that some people with higher IQs find more important things to do than be rich
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    Yes, but you misunderstood the first part. It's not that being more educated gets you a higher paying job (not that I am disputing this is true on the whole), but rather coming from a more privileged background increases the probability of getting a degree moreso than intelligence (as measured by iq) does.

    Also, the intelligent having different goals does not explain why high iq people in scandanavian countries are likely to outperfom their richer (and dumber) counterparts. Policy difderences like free education for those above a certain gpa do.
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

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    of course that's a factor in it as well... I was just looking at the dichotomy set up by the OP though... there's a LOT of factors that go into whether someone has a higher education level and attains a higher paying job
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