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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    apparently you disagree with analyzing intention being the same thing as figuring out why someone behaves the way they do. could you give an example where the intention of someone is different from the reason why he does what he does? i cant figure out any examples, but it might be because im bit tired
    Careful now; that is a different use of 'intention' as you gave in Post #26. And indeed, in this instance the correct use of 'intention'.

    Anyway, the INTJ 'should' understood if someone has good or bad intentions in their actions even if they cannot understand why they act the way they do.

    I think we now have fine consensus upon the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exact View Post
    Careful now; that is a different use of 'intention' as you gave in Post #26. And indeed, in this instance the correct use of 'intention'.

    Anyway, the INTJ 'should' understood if someone has good or bad intentions in their actions even if they cannot understand why they act the way they do.

    I think we now have fine consensus upon the issue.

    How marvellous! Pumpkin pie for everyone in the thread!
    its not a different use of intention. it wasnt defined that this INTJs reading intentions was only being able to figure out emotional motives behind actions/whether someone means well or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    Have found that INTJs are REALLY good at reading intentions of others' actions but aren't good at READING the feelings of others. (Am I being rude etc?) A common INTJ issue this is?
    I actually think I'm pretty good at this - at least when I'm with a person face to face. Ni you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    I actually think I'm pretty good at this - at least when I'm with a person face to face. Ni you know.
    I would wager the sx stacking might assist with regard to which INTJs have naturally higher propensities for this.

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    My version of this is that I can often determine what someone is trying to accomplish, even if it is a hidden agenda, but won't always understand why they want to do THAT. Thus, I can discern plans/intentions more than the reasons behind them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    That is, I believe, a cat-ass-trophy ...
    An argument is two people sharing their ignorance.

    A discussion is two people sharing their understanding, even when they disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    That is, I believe, a cat-ass-trophy ...
    Combining the three kinds of the sublime: in its catness, the noble, in its situational comedy, the splendid, and the terrifying in this your verbal classification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Combining the three kinds of the sublime: in its catness, the noble, in its situational comedy, the splendid, and the terrifying in this your verbal classification.
    It's a fave pun I read in a book long, long ago: http://tometraveller.blogspot.com/20...chameleon.html

    Thanks for the opportunity to use it!
    An argument is two people sharing their ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    But anyway, sometimes they have really good insights into other people, and sometimes they are having Ni/Fi tunnel vision with Te oversimplification, and they are so used to being "right" that they can't see how wrong they are, or what they're missing,%
    Wow, so this is what they call it. I agree with the Ni/Fi tunnel vision with Te oversimplification. This has been causing a lot of trouble for me...
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    My biggest issue is having nothing in comon with 90% of the people I meet. I'm fine to communicate, socialise and keep my arrogance in check. But when it comes down to shared interests I'm at an absolute loss because I'm into a lot of interests that other people find socially reprehensible. Namely crafting....making stuff. It's what really old retired people do....apparently. i should probably channel this into some high-brow intellectual interest like architecture, fine art or antique collecting but the simple fact is I love making mundane and obscure stuff with my hands. Admitting that you're a crafter is a bit like saying you've got herpes or leprosy. No-one wants to know.

    The other big problem I have is my general lack of connection with the outside world. Most of the time I'm oblivious to what or who is around me. My failure to pay attention to someone when they think I should be trips me up a lot. I am iften quite shocked when someone around spits the dummy. I'm like....wtf was that about?

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