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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    I often argue with someone when it was just 'forcifully agreeing with each other' hahaha!
    and forcifully's not a word. The "e" is on the other side of your keyboard, but you knew that, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevrawlings View Post
    No, nobody wins when they debate with an INTJ. The INTJ will continue to alienate themselves, repel the opposite sex, and gather enemies, and the person they're debating with will rightfully feel disrespected.
    My INTJ father is this way. He has very strong viewpoints and kind of shuts out all other viewpoints that are not in line with his. He debates very passionately...almost appears angry...although I know he really isn't.

    I'm a much more chill INTJ. I like listening to others' perspectives and opinions. There are times when I am 100% sure about something....and those few times I will really defend my viewpoint..but in a much more laidback way...I don't get all worked up about it. If the other party still disagrees after my (probably poor) explanation, I will usually just back off. However, if I have ANY doubt, even if it's 1% unsure, I will gladly listen to others' perspectives and try to look at the issue from as many angles as possible and gather as much information as I can from all parties to come to my own conclusion.

    Also, there are INTJs who'll humbly admit they're wrong and those that don't. I don't have a problem admitting I'm wrong. Granted, you really have to have solid proof first. It's not out of arrogance...it's more of a desire for accuracy and a strong sense of justice/truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevrawlings View Post
    Exactly, a lot of INTJs introverted intuition goes to their head. After all, intuition as it pertains to the myers briggs, is the ability to know something without being able to explain why. This leads some INTJs to feel that they shouldn't have to explain why, or that they're right solely on the grounds of their intuitive hunch.

    So many INTJs are abrasive know-it-alls, who actually know very little.
    Wow...that is so spot on. I actually struggled so much with this at work. I knew WHY we should do something a certain way, and I knew it would be the BEST most efficient way, but it was so abstract in my mind that I couldn't possibly put it into words. None of my coworkers would "get it". Thank god for ENTJ supervisor who translated my abstractions to all the SJ's in the room!

    I think this is one of the biggest reasons I've felt SO MISUNDERSTOOD in life. That goddamn intuition. Hmmm...hadn't thought of it like that before

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    I have nothing against INTJs. One thing Ive found interesting is the INTP/INTJ dynamic, where I come up with the idea and the INTJ defines my thinking. I can be in many directions and see many possibilties while the INTJ is faster than me to come to the right conclusion of those possibilities.

    One thing for me is their sometimes a little rigid not wanting to go further into exploring possibilities when they mean they have formulated the best of the possibilities. I think its their biggest weakness, when they think that they are better than you in decisionmaking or said in other words when they trust their decisions too much. They are very directive sometimes in their handling of other people, but at times when they relax are some of the greatest people to be around for an intp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katsuni View Post
    [Long rant about being defeated in arguments]
    YouTube - Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.


    Quote Originally Posted by thescientist View Post
    Wow...that is so spot on. I actually struggled so much with this at work. I knew WHY we should do something a certain way, and I knew it would be the BEST most efficient way, but it was so abstract in my mind that I couldn't possibly put it into words. None of my coworkers would "get it". Thank god for ENTJ supervisor who translated my abstractions to all the SJ's in the room!

    I think this is one of the biggest reasons I've felt SO MISUNDERSTOOD in life. That goddamn intuition. Hmmm...hadn't thought of it like that before
    Lrn2Te. Ni really is the divine function once you figure out how to articulate and explain your lightning fast abstractions. It has helped me ace every extemporaneous exam I've had up to this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevrawlings View Post
    and forcifully's not a word. The "e" is on the other side of your keyboard, but you knew that, right?
    Oh an anal ISTP, thats news

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevrawlings View Post
    The INTJ will continue to alienate themselves, repel the opposite sex, and gather enemies
    It's quite funny. I should be offended after reading this, but the only thing I feel is satisfaction. Is there a doctor in the house?

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    Um, I just wanted to interrupt this broadcast to tell you all I really wanted some more cereal. I didn't know where else to put this announcement, so I figured I would sling it into the "Hate INTJ" thread. Seemed oddly appropriate.
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    This thread just makes me...
    Don't you guys have any feelings? It's so hard being an INTJ... You know.. knowing everything about everything all the time.. and being like a god (thank you Lex for opening my eyes to that).. you other types couldn't handle the pressure!!! None of you could EVER handle the pressure of our greatness! Being perfect all the time is hard!

    Therefore I am going to help you bitches out and enlighten you! You should all read this book if you're having problems with your INTJs... it's also quite useful for most other types as well


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    I didn't. Forcefully... hm, alright.

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