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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    this is about the same description my ex gives when i point out his blatant manipulation of others.

    i think for ENTPs any "manipulation" is done with a love of the game and seeing if they can actually do it.

    for INTJs it's all about the end result.

    i notice INTJ manuevering pretty quickly. it's fun to watch.
    Hehe, yeah. And the INTJs I know are terrible at lying - or maybe I just know them too well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    this is about the same description my ex gives when i point out his blatant manipulation of others.

    i think for ENTPs any "manipulation" is done with a love of the game and seeing if they can actually do it.

    for INTJs it's all about the end result.

    i notice INTJ manuevering pretty quickly. it's fun to watch.
    I'm more susceptible to INTJ manipulation myself but I see ENTPs conning greater numbers of people. I don't know what it is because their schemes are blatantly obvious but whatever they're doing clearly works. ENTP manipulation often makes me feel vaguely uncomfortable, as though there's something not entirely kosher about it. I guess it's the game playing aspect. In comparison, goal-driven manipulation doesn't seem as bad to me although that's largely dependent on what the goal is.

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    Oh man...ENTP manipulation, I can spot it from a mile away lol. I still love em' though, we all have our moments <3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mia_infp View Post
    Hehe, yeah. And the INTJs I know are terrible at lying - or maybe I just know them too well.
    I'm very uncomfortable doing that. You might be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mia_infp View Post
    Hehe, yeah. And the INTJs I know are terrible at lying - or maybe I just know them too well.
    Hmm, I'm actually VERY good at lying, but I really only lie about my personal life (mainly just my thoughts and feelings). I don't lie to manipulate people though.

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    I have my ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post

    ENTPs use enthusiasm, jokes and teasing to convince.
    Compliments and sweetness too lol! Sneaky Sneaky...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mia_infp View Post
    Hehe, yeah. And the INTJs I know are terrible at lying - or maybe I just know them too well.
    INTJs don't lie. We just dispense the truth in a controlled manner.
    I've been called a criminal, a terrorist, and a threat to the known universe. But everything you were told is a lie. The truth is, they've taken our freedom, our home, and our future. The time has come for all humanity to take a stand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mia_infp View Post
    *Feels inexplicably drawn to believing what this ENTP is insisting she believe....vacantly stares as a drop of drool pools in the corner of her mouth...* There is no manipulation.... these are not the droids I'm looking for....
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    I despised manipulation, I only do that if I have no choice and as a self defense. Anyway, INTJ are far more better than ENTPs. I know this because I had dealing with several ENTPs before at different situations.
    It didn't take long to bring them down since I can see the problem from above.

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