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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    ENTJs need structure 1st, therefore Te has to act 1st. Then comes Ni into play. Whereas for INTJs nothing on earth has to make sense. They only need the hunch. And then they get on with it right away.

    I probably have to go in to more detail to make more sense. But sigh I have to go to sleep now.
    I get it. It's just the process of heuristic. ENTJs do Te, Ni, then act. INFJ do Ni, act, then Te later.
    Intellect can't be quantified in my opinion. There are situations where one function will perform better than the others and vice-versa. Society do place higher value on some functions above the others. But thats society....

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Imo INTJs seem to quite likely to gather shitloads of information that is made up by intelligent people, if they learn to use this info they have gathered in smart ways, they can come up with really extraordinary discoveries and be very intellectual. Its just that quite often INTJs arent able to use this info correctly and think that they are smart because they have read about smart things and this usually comes with high ego and "im the smartest kid in the world" attitude..When it comes to smart INTJ vs smart INTP, the INTJ will most likely shine on knowledge and INTP will most likely shine with deduction skills.
    Sounds more like ISTJs than INTJs. INTJs are more interested in learning concepts than specific facts. (Of course that's a generality. Everybody does all of these things to some degree)
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    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    Sounds more like ISTJs than INTJs. INTJs are more interested in learning concepts than specific facts. (Of course that's a generality. Everybody does all of these things to some degree)
    I think INTP meant that. He/She just didnt phrase it that way. INTJs gather a bunch of concepts created by other people, rank them, and choose the option. All the best concepts collected in one place is in itself innovative. INTJs make decisions with convergent thinking, like a tree diagram. In contrast, INTPs think in parallels. We see a series of events and then identify the events relationship. We take that concept and test it with other events to see if they make sense.

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    I think both types are intellectual, but I voted for an INTPs. They likes to learn everything, and of course they knowledge are more better. I don't speak for every INTJs, as for me, I only like to learn certain things which catches my interest.

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    INTJs and INTPs debate for aeons about who is more intellectual while ENTPs get all the hot chicks and ENTJ make money. I'ld say the debate is a loss-loss situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    INTJs and INTPs debate for aeons about who is more intellectual while ENTPs get all the hot chicks and ENTJ make money. I'ld say the debate is a loss-loss situation
    When the important things are taken, one has to fight for what is left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    When the important things are taken, one has to fight for what is left.
    That sounds a tad bit fatalistic
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    INTJs and INTPs debate for aeons about who is more intellectual while ENTPs get all the hot chicks and ENTJ make money. I'ld say the debate is a loss-loss situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    That sounds a tad bit fatalistic
    I thought ENTP getting all the hot chicks and ENTJs making all the money was a law of nature. Fatalism seemed appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    I thought ENTP getting all the hot chicks and ENTJs making all the money was a law of nature. Fatalism seemed appropriate.
    Nah. entp nature is optimism and a morbid helping nature. That way I have scared away all intps or intjs I tried to be friends with
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