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    Quote Originally Posted by gmanyo View Post
    feelings are hormones, logic is synapses
    No. Both are series of actionpotentials
    "Where wisdom reigns, there is no conflict between thinking and feeling."
    — C.G. Jung

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    Love and hate aint logical sometimes, still there existance is truth.

    Theory falsified
    [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBvftJUwDw&t=0s[/URL]

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    I think the point is that all feelings and logic are signals sent through your body. I don't necessarily believe this, because I am a theist, but if I wasn't I certainly would. That was a confusing statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmanyo View Post
    I think the point is that all feelings and logic are signals sent through your body. I don't necessarily believe this, because I am a theist, but if I wasn't I certainly would. That was kind of a confusing statement.
    still we are slaves to that vessel. And the question is, if we werent, would we be able to know what truth then would feel like ?
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    What do NT's think about discordianism? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmanyo View Post
    I think the point is that all feelings and logic are signals sent through your body. I don't necessarily believe this, because I am a theist, but if I wasn't I certainly would. That was a confusing statement.
    I don't understand how the existence of God would change any of this.

    I also don't understand why you said this:
    It would work as an ironic critique of atheists who are just atheists because they jump on the atheist bandwagon
    this
    an illogical argument for logic
    and this
    Especially since it ends with the "beautiful" picture
    It's strange how if I would have said "Hey I read the zodiac every day before going to work, and somehow things happen like it says there, there would have been probably one person to say, hey cool I do that too you're right"

    However if I said "Life's a string of possibilities which influence who we are, we are the result of those possibilities"

    Then oh.no logic fail.

    We live in a string of possibilities all our lives.

    If A, then B, then C, then D
    If X, then Y, then Z

    D is me being a computer programmer. It was probably determined by C, support from family, and achievement in school and shit.
    Z is me being a homeless guy living on crack. And was probably determined by Y, which was a stressful event that turned everything upside down.

    They all add up, and determine who you are.

    I see no flaw in my reasoning.

    Also the only argument that favors religion is that you can't really prove 100% that god doesn't exist, therefor, God may exist.

    However the logical answer would be: I cannot know if God exists or not, making both atheism and theism pretty much nonsense. Seriously, how would we know? It doesn't make any sense.

    Also, truth = logic is a mere metaphor.

    As I said, to me it's like saying the potter = pottery.

    Even though it may present no logical sense, when you look at it like a poem, like something with no structure you see things differently.

    I imagined it as I previously said:
    The potter = Pottery => The potter does a flawless job, the job defines him and he defines the job.
    Logic = Truth => Logic does a flawless job, Logic defines truth, and truth defines logic.
    It's circular.

    How does this make no sense?

    I cannot understand.

    And how does this lead to:
    It would work as an ironic critique of atheists who are just atheists because they jump on the atheist bandwagon
    There's also been an interesting logical test on the internet.

    And before it started, it asked a very simple question: Do you believe in God? And I see that there are 2 deviations from the "Yes", the No and the I don't know if God exists or doesn't and none of us can.
    Both of these answers were a LONG way from "Yes"

    And surprise, the people who recognized most logical patterns answered the least with "Yes" to this question.

    Can't screw with the math man.

    However, a "Yes" in the God question does not exclude a high result in the test, it just makes it unlikelier.

    I found that very interesting.

    I also find it interesting that it is highly likely that "Hey I read the horoscope and bla bla bla" may actually considered be more accepted by other people than that what I said.

    But whatever

    Whatcha gonna do?

    It's just the world we live in.

    I probably shouldn't have posted this and just left it where it was.

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    And you can take "Life is a string of possibilities " even further you can get to All possibilities come true in multiple universes.

    Which sounds really nice, and adds more meaning even though it's just pure speculation.

    Which results in: Everything comes true.

    Every possible scenario, every possible outcome, is somewhere. Either an abstract or a concrete world.

    I'd rather believe in this than in whatever "theism" means.

    And there's also something very nice to this.

    See, if there are an infinite amount of universes, or at least a so called infinite value of universes, then the possibility of life on Earth and an universe such as ours is no longer some rare and unlikely event, it becomes an outcome.

    Which changes things even more.

    Life itself has become a possible outcome, a conclusion.

    And so on.

    Connecting the dots, even the ones that may not exist.

    And it still doesn't fail.

    It stands up as a reasonable explanation to a lot if not everything.

    Just a string of possibilities.

    So, if we look into things a little deeper, everything becomes an effect of something else, a chain reaction of an apparently inter connected web.

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    Too much.

    Power/strength = truth

    I think you associate logic with strength/power without realizing it cause to you that's the ultimate source of power.

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