sakuraba I find it interesting how you talk about ENTPs from a third person perspective.
Duh! Cause I'm not writing about myself. I'm writing about ENTP and ENTJ in general.
I'm so NT I'm detached from my type or writing in 1st person. ha. Well I know I'm definately not SP or SJ. Second closest for me would be NF. But I don't have that flaky emotional depressed sensitive confused core. More like a stable cold hard edge.
NF's think to themselves "WHO AM I? WHAT WILL I BECOME? AM I BEING MY TRUE SELF?"
NT's say "I AM THIS... blah blah blah...I DONT QUESTION MY TRUE SELF BECAUSE I KNOW I AM BRUTALLY HONEST AND MY OWN WORST CRITIC...ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?"
probably due to his Ne+Ti combination, but what would you know of that, really.
[sarc]Nothing really. I am actually an ISFP hiding behind a huge lie.[/sarc] Just look at nemo's post history. This guys soft as a cupcake. Typical male NF who wants to pass as an NT to seem more manly.
This is what I'd object to: that what you were describing in any way pertains to ENTPs or ENTJs or *any* other type "in general."
It seemed based mostly from personal experience, although you did quote Socionics. And I'm sorry, but I don't find a website that types people based on their skull structure as a reputable source of information.
You're certainly right that certain ENTPs could possess those characteristics -- but it's not indicative of their type. It has nothing to do with tertiary Fe, or Ne, or whatever. It has to do with being an asshole.
I've yet to find a reference to these social-Machaivellian ENTP tendencies from any of the non-batshit-insane MBTI literature -- in fact, sometimes it's quite the contrary (esp. Lenore Thompson's profiles). The closest we could find was vague correlations between ENTPs and Enneagram types. But you're welcome to prove me wrong.
PS: Still an ESTP.
PPS: Okay, I admit; I'm an INFP.
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