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  1. #241
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    Oh I should add to the discussion.

    ENTPs - Enjoy the moment.
    ENTJs - Enjoy their achievements. (I would rather enjoy the moment. Enjoy the little amount of years I have left.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by yenom View Post
    ENTJ are exactly like ENTPs.

    Only faster
    more ambition
    more powerful
    more successful
    more dominant
    more machieveillian
    more intelligent
    more extroverted
    more fearless
    more leadership
    more authority
    more 8w7
    more everything!!!


    There now you know the difference.

    AND DID I SAY MORE POWERFUL!?
    Only faster - (Not really, ENTPs are way more opportunistic. Thus I would argue that they are faster. I am interpeting faster in a more specific way to ease my point down your throat.)

    more ambition - (Yes definitely.)

    more powerful - (Power hungry. When it comes to people I would say ENTPs are more influential thanks to Fe Ne. But then again ENTJs are officially powerful, from my experience.)

    more successful - (In what? scaring people off? )

    more dominant - (YESSSSSSSSSSS, but that's not a good thing. People laugh behind your backs you know? if you are dominant.)

    more machieveillian - (ENTJs are NOT machieveillianess. ENTJs are planners who plan things and see things unfold. machieveillian would LET THINGS UNFOLD and slightly push thing around to get what they want. That's ENTP. And that's machieveillian.)

    more intelligent - (Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.)

    more extroverted - (Noooooooooooooooooo. Barking at people is not extroverted.)

    more fearless - (When there is crisis ExxPs always seem to have the best guns. And fearless applies to situations that you do not know what outcome it would result in. Such as a crisis. So who saves the day or who would survive such a situation? Meaning who is more fearless?)

    more leadership - (Ne - seeing opportunities everything, combined with Ti and Fe (hugs kisses and motivation with a lot of manipulation.)

    more authority – (Yes.)

    more 8w7 – (Yes.)

    more everything!!! – (No.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuchIrony View Post
    I've noticed that too. I think the dominant Ne makes ENTPs appear more talkative than ENTJs who have dominant Te and its the talkativeness that's making ENTPs appear more extraverted. Ne rambles on and on more while Te is more straight to the point, getting rid of extraneous stuff. So ENTJ doesn't appear as talkative.

    Also the tertiary functions might have some effect. ENTP has tertiary Fe which is useful for connecting emotionally with other people. ENTJ has tertiary Se which is more about action and let's just do it. So again, ENTP has a tertiary function that makes them appear more sociable, which may make them appear more extraverted.

    Of course there are lots of ENTPs who claim to be near the border on E/I and ENTJs who are strong Es. But ENTPs appear more hyper when they are extraverting while ENTJs appear more calm and measured.
    This is the one thing that always makes me think I am not an ENTP. I can be talkative, but everyones description of an ENTP is that they just never shut-up... I don't understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    This is the one thing that always makes me think I am not an ENTP. I can be talkative, but everyones description of an ENTP is that they just never shut-up... I don't understand it.
    Who the hell are you including in that "everyone"? Any ENTPs? I am not talkative, getting me to talk is a task, getting me to shut up takes no effort.

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    Everyone who has described ENTP's that aren't ENTP's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    Everyone who has described ENTP's that aren't ENTP's.
    Don't listen to those fools!

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    Putting in ear-plugs.... Now!

    These detect non-entp speakers and mute them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper View Post
    Who the hell are you including in that "everyone"? Any ENTPs? I am not talkative, getting me to talk is a task, getting me to shut up takes no effort.
    +1

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    The ENTP in my family can be talkative but not always. He uses comedy as a way to connect with people. When he was little, he was quite shy but grew out of it by watching others and realising the value of humour (he told me this himself). But when he's deep in thought or simply doesn't feel like socialising, good luck getting a grunt out of him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    The ENTP in my family can be talkative but not always. He uses comedy as a way to connect with people. When he was little, he was quite shy but grew out of it by watching others and realising the value of humour (he told me this himself). But when he's deep in thought or simply doesn't feel like socialising, good luck getting a grunt out of him!
    First time I've used this I believe ---> +1

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