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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I am going to try to emphasize the core differences between ENTJ and ENTP from a more stereotypical PoV
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    LMFAO.

    ENTP=ENTJs that like to procrastinate
    ENTJ=workaholic ENTPs that likes structure, organization, and order


    I think Hank Scorpio from simpsons is a machieviellian ENTp though.

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    hehe mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, you guys are funny

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    ENTJs might not seem creative to a lot of us Ne type because we don't really value Ni. While Ni likes to go to the source, Ne looks for the external manifestations of such things. So we hop from thing to thing to thing to thing, while Ni is quite happy to just talk about the thing that underlies all of those objects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I am going to try to emphasize the core differences between ENTJ and ENTP from a more stereotypical PoV
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    Very funny and so correct, especially the ENTJ. Except for the fact that it is a dog. Dogs like to do as they┤re told, ENTJ's like to do as they think is what they should do.

    As an INTJ that's the inflexibility in ENTJ's that sometimes bothers me. But besides that, ENTJ's are great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Very funny and so correct, especially the ENTJ. Except for the fact that it is a dog. Dogs like to do as they┤re told, ENTJ's like to do as they think is what they should do.

    As an INTJ that's the inflexibility in ENTJ's that sometimes bothers me. But besides that, ENTJ's are great!
    in theory, i think the INTJs are more inflexible.
    1. if they are extremely introverted, you end up with Ni + Fi, which is like literally being in love with your own ideas.
    2. they take outside data less seriously (inferior Se)
    3. logic is the slave to intuition

    my best example of such a person: Ayn Rand

    ENTJ
    1. if they are extremely extroverted, you end up with Te + Se, which is like literally being an empirical scientist
    2. they take new outside/conflicting data more seriously (teritairy Se)
    3. intuition is slave to logic (merely guides to the right places to look)

    my best example: ...ill have to get back you

    and yes im fully aware that ive compared the worst INTJ possible to the best possible ENTJ

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    ENTJ and ENTP work together real well, like ENTJ can be a Sauron-like overlord and ENTP is the advisor/scientist that creates ingenious machines of war to conquer all.

    I would like to rule the world too, but then I'll get bored....

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    I love these threads "yeah, so I know all these NT women and they say they're ENTJ but they're flexible and friendly and outgoing so I don't know if they're ENTP or ENTJ. What do you guys think?"

    Have them take a personality test again:

    Are you flexible?
    A. Yes
    B. No

    Are you Friendly?
    A. Yes
    B. No

    Are you Outgoing?
    A. Yes
    B. Yes

    A=ENTP
    B=ENTJ

    foolproof
    I don't wanna!

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    Quote Originally Posted by booyalab View Post
    I love these threads "yeah, so I know all these NT women and they say they're ENTJ but they're flexible and friendly and outgoing so I don't know if they're ENTP or ENTJ. What do you guys think?"

    Have them take a personality test again:

    Are you flexible?
    A. Yes
    B. No

    Are you Friendly?
    A. Yes
    B. No

    Are you Outgoing?
    A. Yes
    B. Yes

    A=ENTP
    B=ENTJ

    foolproof
    im starting to think that people actaully dont believe in ENTJs (like as if it were a myth)

    ENTJs are not ESTJ ... this was the main problem with Bluewings write up for ENTJ...he wrote this page long thing on Te which sounded fine...but then never rectified how Te directed with Ni is going to look completely different than Te directed by Si.

    ENTJs are not against change. they are not anti-creativity. They aren't any more unfriendly than the ENTP, its just that the ENTP is more likely to use Fe as a tool to get what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BookLady View Post
    I have met several people whom I thought were ENTP's but they have insisted they were ENTJ's.

    Why did I think so? Because their homes had some of the 'chaos' I have witnessed in "P" homes and because these women seemed kind of all over the place, flexible etc, very friendly and outgoing.

    Now, my uncle, mind you, is an ENTJ so I know what HE looks like...but can someone help me see why I am getting these women all wrong???

    TIA...

    It's a common mistake to assume that J=physically organized. I know some ridiculously messy NTJs and others who are very insistent upon a clean environment. The only real connection between MBTI and physical cleanliness is probably that most SJs are extremely insistent upon it.

    NJs though? No significant pattern in physical cleanliness habits, as far as I can tell.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    ENTPs sound like fun, I want one!!!

    ENFPs are chalk full of substance and insight. and I would say that we are pretty down-to-earth in our idealism. Perhaps you've never met an ENFP and consequently are projecting a false type description.
    We're all over the place, dear. I love ENFPs, but one thing you are perhaps not chock full of is English ability. Ho ho ho.

    I kid. You know I love you guys...we bond over dominant Ne.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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