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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    It might be inappropriate for me to say but I found myself getting really mad about how my posts were moderated. They would delete my posts for little to no reason, merge my threads with no explanation. They deleted a visitor message I'd posted for someone asking about TypologyCentral ("link dropping"). They are very risk averse. Short posts - one liners are deemed to have no substance and looked down upon. It's like you are supposed to write a paragraph providing a lot of words when it's unnecessary. It amazes me that a person who is an INTJ would put up with the constraints and overly controlling style. Perhaps it is just a reaction that I have, which is unique to me, that doesn't bother others as much. Maybe it's projection on my part in combination with the enneagram 6 or something.
    Nah. I don't think it's unique to you. I think the admin/owner is ISTJ. Or if INTJ, is Enneagram type 1. 99% of the time, it's easy to live within the constraints, but when you need to enter something that violates one of their filters, one discovers how logic, pushed to an extreme, is silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    Nah. I don't think it's unique to you. I think the admin/owner is ISTJ. Or if INTJ, is Enneagram type 1. 99% of the time, it's easy to live within the constraints, but when you need to enter something that violates one of their filters, one discovers how logic, pushed to an extreme, is silly.
    I signed up, saw all the constraints, and said, "fuck this."

    I don't think I have a single post there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post

    1. They are all concerned with being the "most INTJ" INTJ that the nature of the forum becomes competetive and not helpful.

    2. Everyone's posts are way too long to get out a simple point.

    3. Everyone thinks all INTJ traits are awesome, even if they are obviously flaws.

    4. Everyone feels compelled (as far as I can tell) to show off their wittiness and intelligence every chance they get.
    I HATE your use of All, Everyone, Everyone and Everyone. That is, IMO, shameless, inexcusable innaccuracy . You made ZERO attempt at being accurate.

    Truly the only place where all and everyone can be used is to claim ALL of your points are flawed because of the exaggerated extreme you assert.

    An estimate of what portion actually is in line with your assertions (all of which I disagree with BTW in their current flawed form)

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    Damn, you caught me. Sorry I offended you in a post I made 4 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    Damn, you caught me. Sorry I offended you in a post I made 4 years ago.
    Four AND A HALF.

    Geeezus! Doesn't anyone care about accuracy around here?!!


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    The folks on the INTJ forum seem, based on the responces in this thread, to care about accuracy, since those members do not let even the slightest infraction slide. And, like another poster said below, it would indeed be funny if some of these people are ISTJs.

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    ^ Not an INTJ. Not an iNtuitive.

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    @Zarathustra not an INTJ. Not an Introvert.

    Okay were even now!

    By the way here is an interesting post by JTR as well as my responce below:

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    I believe the key to understanding intuitive dominants is to understand how the mind works.

    What separates us from animals of lesser intelligence is the interconnection of our neural pathways. Not even the most advanced technologies of today can distinguish between an ant neuron and a human neuron. My favorite neuroscientist, Michael S. Gazzaniga, put the difference kind of something like this:

    "Imagine you are in Oklahoma and someone robs a store. He leaves the state, and you are tasked with tracking him down. If you were a police agency equivalent to a whale's brain, it would be like having three federal agents searching different states looking for the perpetrator. If you were a police agency equivalent to a human brain, it would be like being able to search thirty-eight states at once looking for the perpetrator."

    Humans are exponentially more capable of tracking and identifying critical information relevant to thought processes, to the point where we can look for five, ten, and twenty 'perpetrators' at a time efficiently. This gives rise to a multitude of advantages over minds capable of only a few simultaneous threads of thought.

    Now that some basic physiology of the mind is out of the way, we must look at the Ne/Si - Ni/Se duality. Ne and Se are methods of metabolizing information (from the previous analogy - federal officers), while Ni and Si are methods of recalling information (the perpetrators). Ne users are quick at metabolizing information; I think of it like lightning shooting across existing nodes of Si into the unknown, forging a path to be filled with more nodes of Si. The data generated by this imaginative thought then falls into 'factual' information, which is why I think Ne users are labeled as 'expert classifiers' - kind of like a system of guilty until proven innocent.

    Ni users, however, prefer to work and rework the nodes of information already accrued, relying on the direct interpretation of sensory input to provide new nodes to be worked around. To be Ni-dom is to consistently seek nodes of Si that have connections previously unrealized, like turning a stone over four times expecting to see something different on the next flip. They will observe it from the top down and bottom up simultaneously, under a black light, heated up to 300 degrees and then dipped in paint if it meant coming to an objective, definitive conclusion (hence aux Te/Fe - the strive for objective criteria) - in the Se/Ni system, it is kind of like innocent until proven guilty.

    I just don't see Ni dominance in many people. I honestly think it manifests itself as a twinge of crazy; I don't think people have the capacity for such mentally exhausting procedure, and statistics apparently back up my perception.
    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    JTR I'm glad you answered my question. Now for my thoughts on your responce:

    Yes I agree with the story example you used, where the ability to hold many thoughts within the mind at once gives one advanced levels of perception, and from this one can see things from all possible angles and dimensions, these different states of mind we can tap into giving us a greater awareness, almost like an illumination or an awakening, which I could see as sharing a connection with Ni cognition.

    It seems you are saying that Ne users can branch outwards in order to interconnect related or even potentially unrelated information into a corehent whole, different categorical systems being attached to each branch, and of course each branch constitutes the same tree, and the funny thing too is that trees do indeed quite literally get struck by epic bolts of lightning.

    I see that Ni will turn the world on its head with revolutionary insights that completely transform our current paradigm, and that Ni is open to all of the possibilities, with a mixed wonder for what could be true, and a skepticism for what could be false, balancing them out on the scales of judgment, and then arriving at the destination of a fixed decision.

    If Ni dominants are so rare, as the above information implies, then it follows that we may need to begin second guessing ourselves, not only in regards to our own types, but also on all frontiers, checking decisions out against all available criteria in a never ending quest of questioning each and every one of our preconcieved convictions. This method may not only apply to typing oneself, but could also be used as a universally applicable system to all questions requiring a full and complete analysis in their design, following the chain of contingency to the inscrutable source containing within the grand and unified truth of all things.
    And so the epic challenge commences between the two "INTJs". The Wizard Vs. the Sage!

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    I've actually spent many a hour on INTJforum and thoroughly enjoyed my time there. I think I've probably spent more time there than maybe any other MBTI website; though to this day I'm yet to create an account and post. There are ISTJs crawling in their midst but there is enough N to keep things interesting.

    Kudos to the above post by RaptorWizard. The two quote bubbles from yourself and jontherobot are excellent posts about Ne and Ni.

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    I never would have guessed that one so bold as the Big Z would walk away from a challenge as momentous as this typing duel I initiated!

    It must not be worth his time...

    But, on the bright side, I guess I could take it as a temporary surrender, though if he wants to get back in the game, he needs to do so before I claim the winner's flag.

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