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    Quote Originally Posted by SeedofDavid View Post
    The socionics site says that the
    INTJ = Benefactor
    ISTP = Beneficiary

    The link you posted was very helpful; just took me a while to figure out, because I was reading my self as benefactor and trying to understand it.
    Socionics INTj is Ti dominant and therefore is MBTI INTP.
    Socionics ISTp is Si dominant and therefore MBTI ISTJ.
    Therefore, ISTJs are beneficiaries of INTPs, but the author of this thread was asking about relations of INTJ and ISTP. These are different kind of relations. In ISTP-INTJ relations it is the ISTP who is the benefactor of the INTJ.

    You need to keep in mind that Socionics does not use J and P letters the same way as MBTI. Therefore type conversion is not straightforward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sulfit View Post
    Socionics INTj is Ti dominant and therefore is MBTI INTP.
    Socionics ISTp is Si dominant and therefore MBTI ISTJ.
    Therefore, ISTJs are beneficiaries of INTPs, but the author of this thread was asking about relations of INTJ and ISTP. These are different kind of relations. In ISTP-INTJ relations it is the ISTP who is the benefactor of the INTJ.

    You need to keep in mind that Socionics does not use J and P letters the same way as MBTI. Therefore type conversion is not straightforward.
    This reply is only a year late, so yeah. Hah! I was saying the info you gave was very helpful. Initially, I was confused because of the socionics site; I was reading the roles backwards and trying to understand. But, INTJ is definitely the Beneficiary!

    Your post opened my eyes to understand the interactions and dynamics on a different level, so thanks for that!!

    [oh, and don't worry about the translation issue between socionics and mbti. people often think that i totally missed something, when i don't respond or comment on it. so, i get that they are 2 different systems. in my humble, but highly accurate opinion, the systems do not interface as ISTp = ISTJ. not that you care about my opinion - this is just part of my effort to start communicating more. ]

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