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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiana View Post
    For me, that's where listening to the Ni comes in. My intuition usually tells me these things, I just have to 1) trust it, and 2) be quiet enough so I can hear it I don't consider that analyzing, because it's so automatic.

    That's unfortunate about your mentor... I'm sorry that it worked out like that. I'm studying to be a psychologist, so I catch emotional instability pretty quickly - I'd better be able to!

    Oh, and ETA I like the quote in your signature. I have that same one on my Facebook profile, haha! Lewis is one of my fav authors.
    Yeah. The worst part was that I got that Ni vibe from her right from the start; I sort of asked a few people was they thought of her... And I overrode the vibe because it was a) a reputable Christian program, with stringent hiring processes and b) because everyone around me was talking about how great she was and the other girls she was in charge of mentoring really got so much out of her. (At the beginning. By the end she had completely unraveled; she eventually told us it was the worst year of her life it was so hard for her.)

    So, from that, I've learned to keep my mouth shut and trust my intuition.

    I won't go so far as saying my Ni is completely reliable, but I do think past history has given me reason to trust myself more than others, even if there are multiple others who feel the same way.
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    Me-INFJ, SO-INTJ. We both analyze everything but he probably keeps more of it to himself (T) while I am more outward (F). When we first got together he was very reassuring and I was a little skeptical. He was correct. They always are (the real ones anyway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cality View Post
    Im not!!!!!
    Maybe I should psychoanalyze myself then.

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    I'd feel embarrassed if someone could tell that I was psychoanalyzing them right in front of them.
    Still using a needle to break apart a grain of sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FallsPioneer View Post
    I'd feel embarrassed if someone could tell that I was psychoanalyzing them right in front of them.
    I wouldn't.
    *You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.
    *Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason once accepted, despite your changing moods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    Yeah. The worst part was that I got that Ni vibe from her right from the start; I sort of asked a few people was they thought of her... And I overrode the vibe because it was a) a reputable Christian program, with stringent hiring processes and b) because everyone around me was talking about how great she was and the other girls she was in charge of mentoring really got so much out of her. (At the beginning. By the end she had completely unraveled; she eventually told us it was the worst year of her life it was so hard for her.)

    So, from that, I've learned to keep my mouth shut and trust my intuition.

    I won't go so far as saying my Ni is completely reliable, but I do think past history has given me reason to trust myself more than others, even if there are multiple others who feel the same way.

    Same here. Don't you hate when you ignore the Ni and it turns out to have been right all along?! Recent example for me: at a grad school residency, I got to talking with this ISTJ guy, and it seemed like we could potentially be friends. But, the Ni got a vibe, very briefly, of "Creep!!" I chose to ignore it, writing it off to be paranoia on my end. And, about ten minutes after getting that vibe, he propositioned me... knowing I was married, and him being married with two kids. What a pervert! lol.

    I wonder how much of her issues were propagated by the Christian subculture (don't get me wrong - I'm a Christian too, but I have certainly been burned by various issues in the culture). It seems that at least in the fellowships I grew up in, everyone is encouraged to take on leadership roles, those roles being the hallmark of strong spiritual maturity. The problem is... if people are psychologically not ready or capable of assuming those roles, they are pushed into them anyway. The sad and untrue assumption is that good Christians are always emotionally strong and always psychologically healthy. That, of course, causes people who are hurting to hide their pain and work toward "becoming a leader" instead of seeking out the healing they need. As a future professional counselor, I hope to change this. /end rant
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    Quote Originally Posted by LostInNerSpace View Post
    Maybe I should psychoanalyze myself then.
    Do you want me to help you to start to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    I wouldn't.
    It's like being caught stealing candy from a store. It's not actually THAT big of a deal, but for me, I just hate getting caught.
    Still using a needle to break apart a grain of sand.

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    I can be prone to psychoanalyzing people, but I try to be kind of sneaky about it, because I realize this makes lots of people uncomfortable. Like in person I'll be somewhat calm/serene and seemingly just asking them questions for conversation or out of genuine interest. But at the same time I'm also logging certain facts and intuitions that can be used later. This method just seems to come somewhat naturally to me. I tend to be kind of selective when it comes to closer friendships or relationships, and as others said, I do like to feel informed before I make a decision.

    My perceptions of others seem mostly intuition based, though. Or at least, my impressions are not always the easiest things to define, and sometimes seem to be lacking in apparent rational grounding. Though I still find my intuition to be my best judge of character. I'm usually the first to discover that I think ______ is kind of a horrible or worthless person, for example, though it is not always negative... just usually. Though I guess it's sort of bad to view people in that way... others often come around to my way of viewing that person, after they get to know him/her better. So most of my judgments seem to have been backed-up by others, in most circumstances. I tend to be on the cautious side when it comes to who I associate with. If I pick up unpleasant or even bad "vibes", I tend to avoid contact in the future.

    So, I feel my ability to assess the personality of others is somewhat valuable. At least, I rely on it a great deal, in order to make sense of others. Though I think if someone develops more compassion and openness, they tend to realize that their intuitions are inherently limited. They're maybe a semi-accurate sketch of that person, but it's nowhere as real as the real thing. And it tends to take one's own perspective too seriously, to some degree. People with different backgrounds are going to view life differently, sometimes I think of if things had been different in my life, how different of a person I would be. Accounting for this can easily throw off our more grasping or vague intuitions about someone, causing us not to indulge them, so they can be seen as what they generally are... a form of self reflection about that person, based on personal symbols that are not necessarily apt in describing that person on any deep level. Unless they're a very shallow person. Depth is usually somewhat easy to discern. Or at least, the people severely lacking in depth seem to make it very obvious.

    I think the analysis makes many people uncomfortable because they're kind of reduced to being a subject of study. A person can mercilessly employ notions and ideas to construct some personally shaded and biased model of that person. I can see this removing some of the magic. Also, it can easily be used as a defense mechanism, or can foster internal barriers or ideas leading to self-defeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cality View Post
    Do you want me to help you to start to?
    Sounds like fun. Bring it on.

    I could be asking for trouble.

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