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    Quote Originally Posted by rmrd View Post
    An NF can make you feel "bad," if you're prone to that sort of thing. Emotional attacks, and all.

    An NT will make you feel worthless and stupid, though.

    Just depends on which you consider "worse."
    true. if i seriously don't think i should feel bad, then all the trying in the world won't work. if anything, it'll net bad results. especially if they (anyone, not just NFs) keep trying.
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    An NT will make you feel worthless and stupid, though.

    That's what I was getting at on another thread I think. Why do people feel that way? Is rationality that offensive? Do they need to be "right" to have a sense of self-worth? I'm not being flippant... it is really a curious thing to me.

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    NTs are quite difficult to argue with, so yes, they are "brutal" and can make you feel worthless or stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by persse View Post
    NTs are quite difficult to argue with, so yes, they are "brutal" and can make you feel worthless or stupid.
    So then, "brutality" is in the eye of the beholder and not, necessarily, the intent of the "brutalizer?" Do you think their intention is to make you feel that way?... or is that a personal choice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanan View Post
    Do you think their intention is to make you feel that way?
    When I was younger, yes, this often was my intention. Even if I acted very cold, cool and emotionless.

    This was a narcissistic and very unproductive way to handle people. Again, a good argument is an argument that is shared and understood. Not taking into account the emotional state of the people you face is either a light autistic feature, or either a proof that you are not as clever and rational that you think you are.
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    ... ah... most of us learn that... eventually
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    Quote Originally Posted by mippus View Post
    ... ah... most of us learn that... eventually
    You mean... most of us can possibly learn that. :rolli:
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    brutal or intimidating isnt a word i'd use... serious in an admirably goofy way would describe it better

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    SPs- make others feel socially inept or dorkish!

    yeah- my friends tell me that I'm intimidating because I'm apparently Machiavellian and have a vicious sense of humor- I don't make those jokes here because nobody can see my face and will probably take them wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    When I was younger, yes, this often was my intention. Even if I acted very cold, cool and emotionless.

    This was a narcissistic and very unproductive way to handle people. Again, a good argument is an argument that is shared and understood. Not taking into account the emotional state of the people you face is either a light autistic feature, or either a proof that you are not as clever and rational that you think you are.
    Well, I sure don't agree with that!... and I can back it up (but don't care to share the personal unless its needed) It is extremely hard for me to determine how an "F" for instance is taking what I say or how I say it. I wouldn't hurt a fly... and I mean that quite literally.. I have ants I can't kill right now and am trying, instead, to relocate them. I am always shocked when I've, inadvertently, hurt someone and care deeply (admittedly on a more intellectual level... but "care" none-the-less.) I find "Fs" to actually be the most "closed" of all types. Sure, they react emotionally but seldom open up enough for me to know what they're thinking/feeling on a personal level... how they're "filtering" what I say.. so how am I to know how they will take something? I feel like I'm walking through a mine field communicating with them.

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