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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobble View Post
    :yim_rolling_on_the_ No you didn't :yim_rolling_on_the_
    Why would you try to read that?
    Only the Chosen can read through the magic of the post.

    EDIT: Oh, hi, Orion.
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    After all the stories about horrifying behaviour by its members, I've only received one death threat in 10 posts. And it was part of the welcome to INTPc. They're...nice...over there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionzRevenge View Post
    The movie strayed from the novel on the strength of Nicholson's role as McMurphy and the Directors desire to make a movie more about the dangers of conformity. In fact, straying so far that 'Chief Broom's' victory over his struggle seems lost as he runs away.

    McMurphy and Ratched are just two trains destined to wreck in order to provide the arc of The Chief's journey.

    If INTPc is a Looney Bin in your mind's eye, then fair enough, let's run with this idea.
    A Funny Farm is a place of Isolation from the greater society so that the patients are not driven Ape-shit by the vast majority of people who are different and demand the conformity of bland normalcy.

    McMurphy is a social fuck-up that is trying to get over on the system and avoid jail by pretending he belongs on the farm. He constantly locks horns with Nurse Ratched over the rules while thinking his shit don't stink.

    Twice McMurphy could have escaped his fate but he made the calls that lead to his own end.
    The one who flew over the cuckoo's nest is a movie about the dangers of conformity.

    INTPc imo is being forced into conformity.

    • Hospital Ward/Online forum
    • Psychiatrists/Administrators
    • Miss Ratched/OMW
    • Female/Female
    • Head Nurse/Head Mod
    • Assistant nurse/Attila the Hunny
    • In charge of ward/In charge of forum
    • patients incapable of dealing with their emotions/members incapable of dealing with their emotions

    Miss Ratched/OMW is completely trusted by the Psychiatrists/Administrators and given unsupervised reign over the whole ward/forum.

    Patients/Members avoid upsetting her because they know she has the authority to send patients/members upstairs/purgatory where patients/members can end up dead/banned.

    When MacMurphy/Unliked Member challenged Miss Ratcheds/OMWs authority and posed as a threat to her control over the ward/forum she made sure the rest of his stay there was miserable.

    MacMuphy/Unliked Member finally snaps and gets sent upstairs/purgatory where he is tortured even worse. He is finally put out of his misery and is killed/banned.

    The ward/forum is a place of isolation from the greater society where some patients/members are driven Ape-shit by all the dysfunctional patients/members and a controlling nurse/mod that demands the conformity of her bland normalcy.

    McMurphy is a social fuck-up that is trying to get over on the system and avoid jail by pretending he belongs on the farm. He constantly locks horns with Nurse Ratched over the rules while thinking his shit don't stink.

    ^ This represents the trolls and dupes who constantly flame the forum.

    * The trolls are attracted to the forum because some of the rules there allow their antics.

    * Then you consistently see dupes there because unliked members will get mistreated, degraded and banned by OMW and other members (sometimes over personal reasons that have nothing to do with forum rules) and they will come back as dupes out of spite.

    Twice McMurphy could have escaped his fate but he made the calls that lead to his own end.

    Once: Stayed so his buddy b-b-b-billy can get laid.

    Twice: Then stayed again when he saw that something happened to his friend.

    ^ This has nothing to do with my comparison but sound like acceptable reasons to stay and shows how he cares about the people there, which is more then you can say for Ratched, who like OMW, seems to care more about the rules of a ward/forum then its patients/members.

    Is that enough comparisons for you? I hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    After all the stories about horrifying behaviour by its members, I've only received one death threat in 10 posts. And it was part of the welcome to INTPc. They're...nice...over there!
    Only one?

    They musn't like you very much...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Only one?

    They musn't like you very much...
    *cries* Already rejected. Hangs head in shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    ...
    EDIT: Oh, hi, Orion.
    woe is me,
    always an afterthought.

    Miss Ratched/OMW is completely trusted by the Psychiatrists/Administrators and given unsupervised reign over the whole ward/forum.
    omw is out front because no one else wants to deal with it. When it comes to bans, she is but one voice and it takes several in agreement.

    Patients/Members avoid upsetting her because they know she has the authority to send patients/members upstairs/purgatory where patients/members can end up dead/banned.
    I defy you to list these trembling members huddled in fear of omw. Many have disagreed vociferously with her (When there is a reason to disagree) and anyone too timid to do so shouldn't be there anyway.

    Failing to provide said list, I suggest this indicates broad tacit agreement with how things are being handled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionzRevenge View Post
    omw is out front because no one else wants to deal with it. When it comes to bans, she is but one voice and it takes several in agreement.

    I defy you to list these trembling members huddled in fear of omw. Many have disagreed vociferously with her (When there is a reason to disagree) and anyone too timid to do so shouldn't be there anyway.

    Failing to provide said list, I suggest this indicates broad tacit agreement with how things are being handled.
    * omw is out front because no one else wants to deal with it.

    ^ Same as Miss Ratched.

    * When it comes to bans, she is but one voice and it takes several in agreement.

    ^ One very influential voice that others side with due to the fact that she's out front so she would know better and they don't really deal with it already and learned to trust her assumption.

    She is usually out in front by herself so you know that trust in her is already established. When you have people who already don't show much interest to begin with and you know these people trust your judgment then you know that you can swing at least some of the votes your way.

    Like the scene where the doctors were deciding what to do with MacMurphy, they all had their own opinion as to what to do with him, remember? And whose opinion did they end up going with?

    Oh yeah, Miss Ratchads.

    Plus I never said she would ban people, I said pissing her off can lead to your banning.

    * I defy you to list these trembling members huddled in fear of omw. Many have disagreed vociferously with her (When there is a reason to disagree) and anyone too timid to do so shouldn't be there anyway.

    ^ I never said that. I said members avoid upsetting her, like the way the patients would do with Ratched.

    * Failing to provide said list, I suggest this indicates broad tacit agreement with how things are being handled.

    ^ my previous answer renders this pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionzRevenge View Post
    woe is me,
    always an afterthought.
    I put you as an aside because I just didn't want anyone to suspect the electric surge of joy and ecstasty that shot down to the tips of my toes and made my face light up in bright irridescent joy at the mere mention of your name on this forum, a name that beats wildly within the fleshy confines of my overflowing heart and fills the empty nooks and crannies of my expansive mind....

    ... of course, now I've just rather blummoxed all that to heck and back, haven't I?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobble View Post
    * omw is out front because no one else wants to deal with it.

    ^ Same as Miss Ratched.

    * When it comes to bans, she is but one voice and it takes several in agreement.

    ^ One very influential voice that others side with due to the fact that she's out front so she would know better and they don't really deal with it already and learned to trust her assumption.

    She is usually out in front by herself so you know that trust in her is already established. When you have people who already don't show much interest to begin with and you know these people trust your judgment then you know that you can swing at least some of the votes your way.

    Like the scene where the doctors were deciding what to do with MacMurphy, they all had their own opinion as to what to do with him, remember? And whose opinion did they end up going with?

    Oh yeah, Miss Ratchads.

    Plus I never said she would ban people, I said pissing her off can lead to your banning.

    * I defy you to list these trembling members huddled in fear of omw. Many have disagreed vociferously with her (When there is a reason to disagree) and anyone too timid to do so shouldn't be there anyway.

    ^ I never said that. I said members avoid upsetting her, like the way the patients would do with Ratched.

    * Failing to provide said list, I suggest this indicates broad tacit agreement with how things are being handled.

    ^ my previous answer renders this pointless.
    It sounds like you're really stuck on making this metaphor work for you.
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    OrionzRevenge, what are you trying to do?

    Give it up already, because I have done more then prove my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I put you as an aside because I just didn't want anyone to suspect the electric surge of joy and ecstasty that shot down to the tips of my toes and made my face light up in bright irridescent joy at the mere mention of your name on this forum, a name that beats wildly within the fleshy confines of my overflowing heart and fills the empty nooks and crannies of my expansive mind....

    ... of course, now I've just rather blummoxed all that to heck and back, haven't I?
    ....
    *SouthPark Stare*



    Quote Originally Posted by Bobble View Post
    OrionzRevenge, what are you trying to do?

    Give it up already, because I have done more then prove my point.
    Bobble Bobble, Toil and Trobble
    One very influential voice that others side with due to the fact that she's out front so she would know better and they don't really deal with it already and learned to trust her assumption.

    She is usually out in front by herself so you know that trust in her is already established. When you have people who already don't show much interest to begin with and you know these people trust your judgment then you know that you can swing at least some of the votes your way.
    These are assumptions, but let's assume they are true.
    So What?

    We experimented with a more democratic method of management but it didn't work out.
    Someone has to be at the wheel.

    Let's also assume that you are correct about a group of members who feel intimidated/inhibited by the situation. If so, as JonnyBoy said, the best move is to leave.
    Why would they stay if this assumption was true???

    INTPc is simply never going to be a One-Size-Fits-All
    ...no matter who is at the wheel.

    BTW: I don't give much credence to the two aforementioned assumptions, but the only way to more perfectly resolve the matter would be to do as MacG suggested and hoist the OP over there.
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