Also, don't know if you've heard but ENTJs can seem like ESTP and vice versa.
I have studied that. And ENTJ makes more sense for me.
It was merely for interest's sake; for intellectual curiosity.EDIT: Just checked out the charts. It's proof, but doesn't have statistical significance. Many people don't knows their type or have much indept understanding so it's subjective. Statistic like these are fallible to bias and manipulation. Perhaps there are other proofs? I wouldn't put too much stock on those charts.
Study the two systems in conjunction with each other more. I was once of the same opinion. Now I place much less weight on it.I wouldn't say it's useless to correlate MBTI with socionics.
It has far more practicality than MBTT does. I study MBTT because it's interesting; it's an intellectually stimulating exercise. Socionics, on the other hand, is more fruitful. It can lead to very gratifying relationships with others.There are some things I like about socionics, and some things I don't. I would use it only to explore the jungian functions.
There is no such think as an ESTP in socionics. What many consider to be quite similar in socionics to the ESTP in MBTT is the SLE. Here's some information on the SLE. You'll recognise the differences between the ESTP and the SLE I think, most notably the fact that the SLE uses all eight functions, while the ESTP only uses four. I've often wondered why. Perhaps it's because they're completely different systems, with different models, temperaments and other theories attached to them. But what do I know? I've just studied the two systems in conjunction with one another and recognised that only idiots and those yet to see it would think that ABCD = ABCd.It sounds preposterous that you consider yourself an ENTJ in MBTI and a ESTP in socionics. Looking at the functions, those types are very different though the description can seem similar.
What you speak of is true. That doesn't mean that the ENTJ equates to the LIE. There are many discrepancies between the two types that you blatently haven't noticed or researched.SeTi is a whole different package than TeNi. SeTi is used to perceive information(perceiver) while TeNi is used to manipulate information(judger). I don't know what drug you were on but the ENTJ both in Socionics, MBTI, and ect. are referred as the stereotypical business type and are widely overrepresented as CEOs. The skills for such jobs require the use of dominant Te and secondary Ni. An ESTP perceiver have limits on what kinds of large business operations they can run using short sightedness Se which they indulge themselves in. Businesses have an advantage by looking into the future not the present.
Okay, fair enough. I'd be surprised if you encountered any piece of information that you found to be completely flawless in every respect.There are some stuff that I find untrustworthy from the site you provided.
And?ENTJs are not considered intellectual dictators.
Why not?I wouldn't trust celebrity typology as well.
MBTT is an acronym for Myers-Briggs Type Theory, as KTT is an acronym for Keirsey Temperament Theory. Newcomers to socionics will often refer to it as MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator), without recognising that MBTI refers to the test itself, even when they want to discuss not the test, but the theory itself. You could call it "MBTI theory", but MBTT is quicker.Why do they keep using MBTT, it's MBTI...
Nothing.Anyway, what's wrong with comparing American descriptions with Russian descriptions?
Sounds like we have a counterphobic bullshitter coming up with theories for something which they know absolutely nothing about.Sound more like they're worried about capitalism.
Too bad, most people will never reap the major rewards socionics has to offer.Too bad, most insitutions and business entities use MBTI anyways.
I'd say they have quite a good basic understanding of MBTT. If you have a claim they've made to refute, come out with an argument to back it up. Don't just mock it. If you studied socionics more, I think you'd find that the claims made about socionics are also true.The site's understanding of MBTI is even more laughable when we get to "Basic differences between MBTI and Socionics" chart.
SOCIONICS: Personality Types and Relationships The chart is somewhere in the middle. It's pretty bias.