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    No the wrong snakes are all yours.. how'ld you translate falsche schlange, I've no clue gn8
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I remember the time on this forum when entp's were wanted beings, now folks are amassing against. You are an unthankful audience.

    But for your convenience, I felt always alone, in the time I was liked and in the time not.
    While we've had our differences, you're a male entp who's of the decent sort. That is from a motivations perspective.

    My problems with male ENTPs are usually steeped in misunderstanding, as well as the way I prefer to interact with people. That's not to say that ENTPs are generally "bad". They're not. Just more difficult to source motivations from.

    To expand on that, it has to do with being led without consent. To try to understand Ne doms, you're almost forced to follow them from rabbit hole to rabbit hole until you get the complete picture, much like how they source information in a random fashion. This creates discomfort within me since as a somewhat positional person, I prefer to anticipate. With Ne-doms I don't trust, I won't follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    While we've had our differences, you're a male entp who's of the decent sort. That is from a motivations perspective.

    My problems with male ENTPs are usually steeped in misunderstanding, as well as the way I prefer to interact with people. That's not to say that ENTPs are generally "bad". They're not. Just more difficult to source motivations from.

    To expand on that, it has to do with being led without consent. To try to understand Ne doms, you're almost forced to follow them from rabbit hole to rabbit hole until you get the complete picture, much like how they source information in a random fashion. This creates discomfort within me since as a somewhat positional person, I prefer to anticipate. With Ne-doms I don't trust, I won't follow.
    Thats what i try to tell my superiors everytime, dont make the crazy engineer the boss, he just cant deal with peeople and they dont like him anyways.

    I think one of my greatest problems is the lack to understandin myself and notice my emotions, maybe because I lack Fe. I rather say everything is ok and fine than dealing with the situation. This makes me a perfect drama queen, but it gives me another thing aswell, which are good manners. Cause I would find it shameful and it feels wrong to me to start the list about what I hate about Fi and Te people now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Thats what i try to tell my superiors everytime, dont make the crazy engineer the boss, he just cant deal with peeople and they dont like him anyways.

    I think one of my greatest problems is the lack to understandin myself and notice my emotions, maybe because I lack Fe. I rather say everything is ok and fine than dealing with the situation. This makes me a perfect drama queen, but it gives me another thing aswell, which are good manners. Cause I would find it shameful and it feels wrong to me to start the list about what I hate about Fi and Te people.
    Not sure where you're getting the unlikeable bit from. You're pretty likeable.

    As far as starting a list about what you dislike about Fi and Te people go ahead. It won't hurt my feelings. I'd be curious what your issues are, since I've been honest about my issues which are definitely partially my issues in how I react to unfettered Ne-doms.

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    That would be what I meant, I never asked for your issues. Are you starting another of yours word battles here ? You know I dont like those
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    That would be what I meant, I never asked for your issues. Are you starting another of yours word battles here ? You know I dont like those
    No. I was freely sharing information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    No. I was freely sharing information.
    And I thought you were freely altering the discussions topic in your favor... my bad must be because I am a bad entp. A bad entp that answered this thread from his mobile phone... fear what will be coming next (still havent found the exclamation mark on the keypad)
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    And I thought you were freely altering the discussions topic in your favor... my bad must be because I am a bad entp. A bad entp that answered this thread from his mobile phone... fear what will be coming next (still havent found the exclamation mark on the keypad)
    Whoah, this is exactly how it ends up, fraught full of misunderstanding or assumption of motivation that doesn't exist.

    I thought this was a wonderful opportunity to freely information share so there's better understanding. Pardon me for even considering that possibility.

    *bows out*

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    Ya this thread is a wonderful opportunity, makes me feel all cozy and innovative
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    INTJ: honey can you get my sweater from the car? I'm kinda cold.
    ENTP: Ok, can you get my keys out of my pocket? My hands are greasy.
    INTJ: Ugh, again?! Why do you always need me to get your keys for you!
    ENTP: No, wrong pocket.... try the middle pocket... *waggles eyebrows at her*
    INTJ: GAH! Why are you saying this stuff in front of other people!!
    ENTP: Oh yes, reach deep in my pocket!

    At this point his audience of primarily NPs started laughing pretty hard.
    yeah, see, i find that pretty hilarious. i mean, you know that they're attracted to one another. duh. and immature sex jokes are just funny because everyone is so damn uptight about sex. also, "pocket". hehehe.

    it really is Ne humor... metaphors and symbolic representation and all that...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    The comment about Ne doms covers ENxPs but solely for the unbridled ones. Most female ENTPs have found a way to manage their Ne-domness, as well as some male ENTPs and some female ENFPs.
    what do you consider learning to manage Ne?

    wondering because i wonder how much it correlates to skilled usage of Ne. some crazy, crazy ENxPs are Ne-brilliant, but i wouldn't say they always manage themselves well. but they evidently manage their Ne well enough, because they're coming up with these extraordinary ideas.

    if you mean reigning it in to be more acceptable, it's kind of frustrating, sometimes, ha... i dunno if i've already mentioned it in this thread, but it's so funny, sometimes i'll be talking with my INTP brother, and i'll drop a couple paragraphs, and he'll be looking at me like i'm an idiot, but then i'll hit my conclusion and he'll be like, "whoa. how did you figure that out?" um weren't you listening?! lol. while he was trying to figure out where i was coming up with all that dumb crap, my mind was rearranging and reorganizing and creating new relationships and juxtapositions. i don't want to be obnoxious - but it really does work more easily when i have a place to exput my ideas - either verbally or onto paper. i used to get told off in school all the time by teachers for "doodling" when i was really half-doodling and half making notes...

    ah well. not to excuse the truly obnoxious Ne doms who piss even me off. but it's tricky sometimes. i'm sure this is true for the other functions too. but i wonder where the right balance is, between indulging your mind and conforming to restrictions like social appropriateness, efficiency of action, etc...

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