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    "Are ISTPs actually closer with INTJ, ENTP and ENTJ than with INTP?"

    I've found it pretty easy to share personal info with the first 3 types for sure, especially ENTP friends. I'm married to an ENTJ (he typed that way, I'm not sure he's the stereotype ENTJ tho).

    The problem with ENTP friends is that with one of them, his loyalty was not with me. So I stopped talking to him. I couldn't tell him anything without him blabbing to other people. The other ENTP was fine tho. Good dude, no drama.

    The INTJ was pretty easy to talk to as well. I feel like he kept everything confidential. The problem arose when his insecure gf had issues with us being friends. Being a horny dude, he ultimately chose to obey his gf and ditch me as a friend. Not officially, but that's pretty much what happened.

    And ENTJ husband... Obviously I'm comfortable telling him things. He established very early on that his loyalty was to me. I definitely appreciated that after being burned by the crappy ENTP I described and the INTJ for ditching me like that when I have an ESTP who had many an argument with his gf about how she couldn't pick his friends.

    If some of my friends in college are/were INTPs (I believe they tested that way back then)...then I'll say I could talk to them about a lot, but not everything. They were awkward about romantic stuff. Probably because at some point they had a crush on me. :rolli:

    I have a very good friend who said she used to test as INTP when she was younger but tests as INTJ now...and she's freakin' awesome. I can talk to her about anything and she's a great friend.

    I seem to like ETSx, xNTJ and xNFP types best.
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    ISTPs are cool, as long as you keep the drama away from them . I generally think Ti - doms are prone to being kinda stubborn and this similiarity between intp and istp could lead to a misunderstanding. As an entp you can more easy take the shit the other one talks about and say "yes sir you are right" .

    I've noticed the issue in the thread title aswell, I'ld type my Dad istp and my grandpa intp. They virtually hate each other, tho it's often that they are quite similiar just with different intentions, from different world views. Well, since they both dont change, they will never get along :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I generally think Ti - doms are prone to being kinda stubborn
    What? We're not stubborn! What in the world gives you that impression? Exactly what have we done to ever give you the impression that we are stubborn? This is ridiculous. Let me explain to you what the true definition of stubborn is and then you will see that we are not at all "stubborn". Like that?

    As an entp you can more easy take the shit the other one talks about and say "yes sir you are right" .
    Do you see this as being a result of Ne being more prominent than Ti?

    I'ld type my Dad istp and my grandpa intp. They virtually hate each other, tho it's often that they are quite similiar just with different intentions, from different world views. Well, since they both dont change, they will never get along :/
    This is how I've been with ISTP's. Sort of a love-hate thing. Mutual respect/admiration because we recognize certain similarities, yet the different "world view" is sometimes a problem and we won't speak for 6 months (not mad, just need some time away from each other), and then get back together and have as much fun as if we'd seen each other yesterday. And then, slowly, the differences start to become apparent again. Repeat cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    What? We're not stubborn! What in the world gives you that impression? Exactly what have we done to ever give you the impression that we are stubborn? This is ridiculous. Let me explain to you what the true definition of stubborn is and then you will see that we are not at all "stubborn". Like that?
    Hehe, well stubborn may not be the right word; but I rarely met an intp who was incorrect. Let's just say they have been working on their reputation .


    Do you see this as being a result of Ne being more prominent than Ti?
    Yes, Ne makes no judgement. It often just doesnt care, what does lead to other problems. Best example is me, I sometimes answer the same thread twice and have a different opinion without noticing it... depends on the mood, but dom-ne is everything else but constant or true. I tend to think of intps as being true
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    I/E of the same types are the only ones that are alike more than any other type is to another.

    For example for INTP's, Ti and Ne work together, but Ti has control. For ENTP's Ne and Ti work together, but Ne gets to call the shots. Both are different from each other, but the processes that make them who they are, have similar roots. Similar foundations.

    ISTP's and INTP's may share the same dominant function. But the entire foundation is very different. INTP is to an ENTP like a Mercedes C is to a Mercedes CLK. Whilest ISTP is a BMW Z3!

    What I am really trying to say is that we are all german made cars.
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    ouh yeah xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Yes, Ne makes no judgement. It often just doesnt care, what does lead to other problems. Best example is me, I sometimes answer the same thread twice and have a different opinion without noticing it... depends on the mood, but dom-ne is everything else but constant or true. I tend to think of intps as being true
    Luckily we have Ne in the background going, "Hey you! Don't forget about me!" I'm sooo glad to have Ne as part of my personality - otherwise I'm afraid I'd be COMPLETELY insufferable.
    NTJ's are the only types that have ever made me feel emo.
    ENP's are the only types that have ever made me feel like a sensor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    ISTP's and INTP's may share the same dominant function. But the entire foundation is very different. INTP is to an ENTP like a Mercedes C is to a Mercedes CLK. Whilest ISTP is a BMW Z3!

    What I am really trying to say is that we are all german made cars.
    You also seem to be saying that ENTP's are an "upgrade" from INTP's? LOL. Or maybe I'm wrong about that. I don't really know my cars that well. You should have said something like "ENTP's are like a Volkswagen, INTP's are like a Turbo Volkswagen - a little bit faster, a little bit sexier." Just kidding - just wanted to rile up my ENTP brethren.
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    well you can buy a mercedes 350 SEL and you'll have a muscle car of its time with an insane yet sufficient amount of HP for all life situations. And then of course you can buy a 560 SEC which is a total overstatement of what the car really was and does produce only a lot of hot air. I dunno I'ld rather go with the intp 350 SEL

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    well you can buy a mercedes 350 SEL and you'll have a muscle car of its time with an insane yet sufficient amount of HP for all life situations. And then of course you can buy a 560 SEC which is a total overstatement of what the car really was and does produce only a lot of hot air. I dunno I'ld rather go with the intp 350 SEL
    Oh, so now you're calling me a 560 SEC, huh?
    NTJ's are the only types that have ever made me feel emo.
    ENP's are the only types that have ever made me feel like a sensor.


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