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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswho View Post
    We're all programmed to be competitive. Educated to be competitive. Trained to be competitive. We watch movies and commercial that promote competitive behavior.

    Winning is everything.

    No matter what the type.

    Or maybe I'm wrong

    Ok...this is a generalization...not everybody is competitive...obviously...
    Winning is only as important or meaningful as your personal investment in the competition. The futility of it all shines through when you analyze just how temporal that feeling of being a "winner" is.

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    For some reason, I have an image in my head of INTPs as sloth like, moving when necessary, slow sometimes.
    Well, we tend to spend a lot of time contemplating all the possibilities and probabilities on those before taking action.
    their diet may be mostly of plants, occasionally some meat but mainly plants, sort bordering on vegan or vega
    I'm almost carnivore and I don't like anything green.
    are Intps competitive?
    I like feeling superior
    what does INTP competitiveness look like?
    I will readily recognize someone's superiority in a given field but usually having in my mind that if i put enough effort i could become even better. I usually won't tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegorystory View Post
    Haha...that sounds like a socionics-style description.
    no this image came from here

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    Extremely competitive when it comes to sports, games, trivia, anything of that nature. If the other person isn't competitive, then I tend to care less. But, if they are willing to challenge me to a good battle, then I'm always up for it. It's all in fun, but it's also very serious - especially if the other person gets into it.

    I had 2 women co-workers who were talking about a local basketball team that lost a big game. One of the women played basketball in college and is very competitive (we always talk about sports) - I think she's xNTP actually. The other woman is not competitive at all and said something like, "So they lost. Not that big of a deal. At least they had fun. I mean, really, what's the big deal?" Me and the other woman looked at each other like, "What?" And then I said, "Yeah, winning sucks. Who wants to win? I mean, personally, I'd rather lose. Losing is where it's at these days."

    I mean, if you lose a game, life definitely goes on. It's not the end of the world. But, if you're going to put your time into something (your blood, your sweat, your tears, your effort), why not go all out? I mean, really go for it! I don't get too caught up in the corporate rat race and I'm very laid back most of the time - a true P. But, if I decide to go for something, I really go for it. All out. Nothing that irritates me more than people who "half-ass" their way through life and then have the balls to complain about the state of affairs. If you're going to do something, do it well. Do it with excellence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Well, we tend to spend a lot of time contemplating all the possibilities and probabilities on those before taking action.

    I'm almost carnivore and I don't like anything green.

    I like feeling superior

    I will readily recognize someone's superiority in a given field but usually having in my mind that if i put enough effort i could become even better. I usually won't tough.
    what if you met someone with much more superior intellect then you and was more successful? only then would you get competitive? it would be more intellectual right? rather then having material things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    Extremely competitive when it comes to sports, games, trivia, anything of that nature. If the other person isn't competitive, then I tend to care less. But, if they are willing to challenge me to a good battle, then I'm always up for it. It's all in fun, but it's also very serious - especially if the other person gets into it.

    I had 2 women co-workers who were talking about a local basketball team that lost a big game. One of the women played basketball in college and is very competitive (we always talk about sports) - I think she's xNTP actually. The other woman is not competitive at all and said something like, "So they lost. Not that big of a deal. At least they had fun. I mean, really, what's the big deal?" Me and the other woman looked at each other like, "What?" And then I said, "Yeah, winning sucks. Who wants to win? I mean, personally, I'd rather lose. Losing is where it's at these days."

    I mean, if you lose a game, life definitely goes on. It's not the end of the world. But, if you're going to put your time into something (your blood, your sweat, your tears, your effort), why not go all out? I mean, really go for it! I don't get too caught up in the corporate rat race and I'm very laid back most of the time - a true P. But, if I decide to go for something, I really go for it. All out. Nothing that irritates me more than people who "half-ass" their way through life and then have the balls to complain about the state of affairs. If you're going to do something, do it well. Do it with excellence.
    would you squish people in the process of world domination? Dirty tactics?( I dont think so)

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    i do like competition even with others. Unless when its only for show, then I dont want to compete with you, I find it childish when people brag. It can be very satisfactory when I excel at something, but I dont put value in it externally. I do it for my own satisfaction. That doesnt mean I wont tell you Im good at something. Or that Im some sort of slug. I really do like to excel and master something. The idea that INTPs dont want to master things, is wrong. If I see a good reason for mastering a skill, I will strive for being better at this skill. But I also am a sucker for novelty.

    Ambitious, yes. I like to excel, my motivation is based on my own perception of the value in the pursuit.

    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    Extremely competitive when it comes to sports, games, trivia, anything of that nature. If the other person isn't competitive, then I tend to care less. But, if they are willing to challenge me to a good battle, then I'm always up for it. It's all in fun, but it's also very serious - especially if the other person gets into it.

    I had 2 women co-workers who were talking about a local basketball team that lost a big game. One of the women played basketball in college and is very competitive (we always talk about sports) - I think she's xNTP actually. The other woman is not competitive at all and said something like, "So they lost. Not that big of a deal. At least they had fun. I mean, really, what's the big deal?" Me and the other woman looked at each other like, "What?" And then I said, "Yeah, winning sucks. Who wants to win? I mean, personally, I'd rather lose. Losing is where it's at these days."

    I mean, if you lose a game, life definitely goes on. It's not the end of the world. But, if you're going to put your time into something (your blood, your sweat, your tears, your effort), why not go all out? I mean, really go for it! I don't get too caught up in the corporate rat race and I'm very laid back most of the time - a true P. But, if I decide to go for something, I really go for it. All out. Nothing that irritates me more than people who "half-ass" their way through life and then have the balls to complain about the state of affairs. If you're going to do something, do it well. Do it with excellence.
    @bolded,

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    would you squish people in the process of world domination? Dirty tactics?( I dont think so)
    No, but you didn't ask if I was ethical. You asked if I was competitive. You can be competitive and still be ethical at the same time. If I'm playing a heated game of basketball amongst friends and I step on the out-of-bounds line (and nobody sees me), I tell everyone that I stepped on the line. Simply because I want to win the right way. I'd rather lose than to win by cheating. There's no satisfaction in that.

    BTW, I'm not saying I've never cheated in my life. But, you know what I'm saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    No, but you didn't ask if I was ethical. You asked if I was competitive. You can be competitive and still be ethical at the same time. If I'm playing a heated game of basketball amongst friends and I step on the out-of-bounds line (and nobody sees me), I tell everyone that I stepped on the line. Simply because I want to win the right way. I'd rather lose than to win by cheating. There's no satisfaction in that.
    I concur

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    I mean, if you lose a game, life definitely goes on. It's not the end of the world. But, if you're going to put your time into something (your blood, your sweat, your tears, your effort), why not go all out? I mean, really go for it! I don't get too caught up in the corporate rat race and I'm very laid back most of the time - a true P. But, if I decide to go for something, I really go for it. All out. Nothing that irritates me more than people who "half-ass" their way through life and then have the balls to complain about the state of affairs. If you're going to do something, do it well. Do it with excellence.
    I couldn't agree with this more.

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    And I wonder if competition in NTP types has more to do with play? Like chess, poker, other strategy games, debate, etc. It's all competition, but it's all in good fun.

    But when it comes down to being competition in, say, the corporate world or with grades/money/etc. there's not much of a drive.

    Least I can see how that applies to me.

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