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  • I am Christian and very serious about it

    14 29.79%
  • I'm Christian...whateva

    1 2.13%
  • I was raised Christian and came to my senses

    13 27.66%
  • Christians freak me the funk out, stay away!

    4 8.51%
  • I'm down with the Buddha

    5 10.64%
  • I'm Muslim

    1 2.13%
  • Judaism is my thing

    3 6.38%
  • Athists are better lovers

    8 17.02%
  • Agnostics are fearless lovers

    12 25.53%
  • Dude, what the hell, you forgot mine!

    5 10.64%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    I said what I meant and I meant what I said. I am loyal to the people I love. After what God has done for me, I will always be loyal to him. I quickly soared to the top where few go, then fell flat on my face and lost EVERYTHING. That was no joke! God has humbled me. If there was a God in heaven, he was my only hope. Not only did he answer my prayers, he restored back everything I lost, plus so much more. I WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER accept that I am capable of doing anything on my own again without him. Christ's love has set me free from the ties that used to bind me. One of those ties was foolish pride, which would often manifest as cruel jokes at other's expense. I was in denial for so long that I was doing that. No more. Now, I work on honoring God and keeping my pride in check. I'm not perfect, but I believe God does the perfecting as we try. I remind myself that I am nobody; I am only somebody because of his love and mercy for me. To whom much is given, much is expected. That's where I'll stand.
    Thanks for explaining this.

    I think it was the missing piece that for some will help unlock understanding as to why you've taken the stance you have on this and other topics, and it seems pretty typical for those who came to a religious understanding after spending their lives being self-focused.

    (My experience was different in that I started in the church, so there have been a lot of back-and-forths, spiritually speaking, but not with the no-god/God division your life has shown.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswho View Post
    And NTP women are different than NTP males.

    There are a ton of factors which can determine one to believe or not to believe in God. Not just MBTI.
    About that, there are studies hinting at the fact that women have, on average, a higher propencity to believe in the 'supernatural' in its wide definition (ufos, magic, religion ..) and describe themselves as more spiritual than men.
    Of course there's a lot of factors to take into account here. But culture coevolves with our natural tendencies as well. In any case whatever the 'size' of the biological influence on this statistical tendency it doesn't make the facts less so (though I'll check more sources later as i have to go out ).
    I guess you could try to compare supernatural belief in populations of women exposed to higher testosteron levels during gestation, that'd get you closer to an answer about the biological basis for gender differences in supernatural belief or perhaps lack thereof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    I guess you could try to compare supernatural belief in populations of women exposed to higher testosteron levels during gestation, that'd get you closer to an answer about the biological basis for gender differences in supernatural belief or perhaps lack thereof.
    yeah, that would be an interesting study... aside from the ethics involved in specifically subjecting females to T in utero vs the difficulty in collecting natural data in a controlled fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    About that, there are studies hinting at the fact that women have, on average, a higher propencity to believe in the 'supernatural' in its wide definition (ufos, magic, religion ..) and describe themselves as more spiritual than men.
    Of course there's a lot of factors to take into account here. But culture coevolves with our natural tendencies as well. In any case whatever the 'size' of the biological influence on this statistical tendency it doesn't make the facts less so (though I'll check more sources later as i have to go out ).
    I guess you could try to compare supernatural belief in populations of women exposed to higher testosteron levels during gestation, that'd get you closer to an answer about the biological basis for gender differences in supernatural belief or perhaps lack thereof.
    Yes women tend to believe in the supernatural.

    Actually I haven't really met a girl who doesn't believe in God (excluding people on the internet). Although I didn't ask them, I tend to avoid religious discutions, but they brought the subject up.

    However this shouldn't be interpreted as an absolute affirmation, like all women believe in the supernatural, but as you pointed out, if you compare the number of women to the number of men who believe...there will be a difference, but I have no idea if it's big or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samvega View Post
    If I meet an ENTP [or intuitive for that matter] I normally commence with the Christian bashing assuming there's no way on earth they could be one. Likewise, if I meet a sensor I assume they are and proceed with caution.

    Don't get me wrong, I have respect for all faiths but intuitives tend to be rational people and since rational arguments don't normally work on religious people (otherwise, there would be no religious people) I tend to assume intuitives have processed Christianity and dismissed it, something sensors don't tend to do.

    Thoughts and ideas would be great as I have no attachment to being right, just curious how the numbers play out.
    I happen to be an atheist but i'd have to disagree that Intuitives are generally rational people. I'm possibly the least rational person in the history of the world. I think it's more that intuitives try to think everything out for themselves without blindly accepting everything theyre told. How they do the independent thinking varies.

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    I starting questioning religion seriously when I was maybe in the 7th grade, and decided that Buddhism made sense... however, since then, I would guess I am more along the lines of agnostic, but I still follow aspects of Buddhism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    yeah, that would be an interesting study... aside from the ethics involved in specifically subjecting females to T in utero vs the difficulty in collecting natural data in a controlled fashion.
    details an entp cannot be bothered with
    *drops the idea at an intj convention*
    *leaves with a contented smile and waits for publications*
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    Well officially (on the records) I'm actually a Mormon, and I did it and didn't really give it much thought because well- compared to the other christian religions its more developed, I wouldn't drink or do drugs anyways being an avid athlete, I think coffee smell overbearing, accidentally had tea on two seperate occassions and thought it was disgusting, and having sex wasn't much of a temptation when I didn't have a car for dates. Then I went on a mission to Argentina and realized that I didn't give a flying shit about religion and none of them can even give me a reason why I should care because I don't fear hell (can't be that much worse than having to be in heaven with them) and heaven sounds boring. As for reincarnation, why would I worry about it if its without end and I won't remember the last life anyway. And it goes on and on for all the rest of em.

    So now I'm a 22 yr old "return missionary" (what every mormon girl wants) one month back from my mission, with a car, and about to finish my last two years of college... this just got interesting

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    I'm a Atheist, but sometimes I love to argue with christians just to mess with them. Through if they're not zealots than their religion is pretty relevant

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