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    If the universe isn't infinite, when does it end?
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    To further explain from a different angle.

    We exist.. This is a mathematical fact. Whatever the odds of our existence, we exist. So no matter how great the odd, eventually we come around again to that 1 in whatever chance of something happening , happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    I think it's a loop.. There is no infinity because things just eventually end up where they started, where they are going and where they have been .

    So time is infinite but space isn't , does that make sense?

    Then I wonder. We live very lineal lives. Everything we know has a beginning and end. SO while we can conceptualize infinity, I wonder if we can truly grasp it's meaning.
    I think it is like a Chinese yoyo that eventually expands wide enough to fall back on itself and out the other direction... Also as much as it lengthens in one direction also the other. Basically stretching, collapsing, then each end producing the opposite momentum.

    I don't know why but when I think of infinity I picture a figure eight.



    Yeah, even I don't know what that meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    If the universe isn't infinite, when does it end?
    And if it ends then what's outside of it is infinite?



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    im fairly sure that there is a perceptual infinity, and im not talking about heaven
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    I think it is like a Chinese yoyo that eventually expands wide enough to fall back on itself and out the other direction... Also as much as it lengthens in one direction also the other. Basically stretching, collapsing, then each end producing the opposite momentum.

    I don't know why but when I think of infinity I picture a figure eight.



    Yeah, even I don't know what that meant.
    The yo-yo imagery is good

    It's like the big wheel on the price is right.. only much much larger.. But eventually $1 comes around again.
    I go with the sphere or loop because look around you.. Space is circular

    But I think our concepts are the same.

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    There is, of course, always the infinite proposed by, say, infinite divisibility or Zeno's paradox (i.e. any movement, before being completed, must reach fist it's halfway point, and before behing halfway it must go a quarter, and an eigth and a sixteenth, ad infinity). Essentially, things like time or space can be broken into infinitely smaller parts, not just infinitely bigger ones.

    Another less grand example of infinite is two mirrors facing one another. Technically, isn't that an example of infinite? The image is repeated infinite times, though it is eventually becomes to small to see.

    Still, it's true that infinity lacks a certain amount of logic as a purely mathematical concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswho View Post
    0.(0)1 has an infinite number of zeros, so you can't get to 1.
    That is to say that the universe never ends, age wise. 1 would be non existence.

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    Well, you can never reach infinity, or prove its existence. The potential for infinity is out there, but will never be realized, for obvious reasons.

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    The question is "Is anything infinite?" not "Is there infinity?". There is "infinity" as much as there is "dragon" as much as there is "1." But these things exists in the abstract dimension---utilized by man in his designation of language. We can designate "1" to many things but what things can we designate "infinite" to?

    Time. I doubt there is ever an end to Time, even with the end of the physical universe. How "physical" is time? But then what about the relativity of time...

    So, I think, the question is "Is absolute nothing possible"?

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