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    Default Inferior Si.

    How have you coped with it being in the fourth seat? Any tips for increasing the usage?

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    Kill it with fire!
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    granted my judging functions differ-but for me it seems more important to be able to recognize it and keep it under control and pointed in the right direction. Also when to recognize when it is closing my mind prematurely to other options on the table or holding me to a path that is too rigid under stress. Perhaps this recognition allows it to develop and be used more productively? I dunno.

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    I tried daily attention memory and reflex exercises. A complete waste of time.

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    Clean your glasses.

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    Hmmm... Kill it with Fire was a close first, but Orobas how do you keep it focused in the right direction? Is it Ne and Fi constantly reminding you something could change?

    Guesswho, were you inspired to do those excercises on your own or did someone suggest that it might help with your memory, or Si function?

    Clean my glasses? Hm, so is it a suggestion not to get caught up with a muddled sensory memory, or the fact that cleaning my glasses (letting go of my predispositions?) will help better use my Introverted Sensing?

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    Can you train Si?

    It's not simply a memory exercise; it's usage of perception along the lines of Ni, but you're connecting based on what you have sensed in the past.
    Like for me, I'm constantly associating what I experience now via my senses with something that I've experienced before. I don't consciously see a '92 Camry and think 'what does this remind me of', instead I see it and it involuntarily takes me back to things that are stored in my memory ( Camry=last years in college= friends and such= events= feelings etc etc etc). What comes out of that is making a connection with something happening now, to perhaps figure out a plan of action.

    Like Orobas, where she has to check it, I too have to take a step back sometimes to think more about other possibilities (Ne). I really think experience plays a part where it helps you to recognize that it's okay to deviate from your past experiences, and to try new things or new ways without too much worry. That piece takes practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    Can you train Si?

    It's not simply a memory exercise; it's usage of perception along the lines of Ni, but you're connecting based on what you have sensed in the past.
    Like for me, I'm constantly associating what I experience now via my senses with something that I've experienced before. I don't consciously see a '92 Camry and think 'what does this remind me of', instead I see it and it involuntarily takes me back to things that are stored in my memory ( Camry=last years in college= friends and such= events= feelings etc etc etc). What comes out of that is making a connection with something happening now, to perhaps figure out a plan of action.

    Like Orobas, where she has to check it, I too have to take a step back sometimes to think more about other possibilities (Ne). I really think experience plays a part where it helps you to recognize that it's okay to deviate from your past experiences, and to try new things or new ways without too much worry. That piece takes practice.
    Thats interesting...the connections I make are very(extremely) shallow compared to you in regard to where it takes me.

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    Si is an unconscious function, but I think it can be controlled. Through a conscious decision to make different decisions in the present. You can manipulate what you'll remember in some way like that, however I think my problem is I end up wallowing in the past trying to find something new that doesn't exist within it, but perhaps this is a faulty judging function instead of Si, though that's the area in which I wallow in.

    Edit. Even there I feel like I had a realization even though it feels as if I've made that same one several times. Perhaps I'm looking at functions that are too much in my conscious view and look more into the functions I don't think I use, but always do. Perhaps my epiphany is related more too Ni? I should look there as if it were an unconscious function. Would socionics be the best place to look?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    Si is an unconscious function, but I think it can be controlled. Through a conscious decision to make different decisions in the present. You can manipulate what you'll remember in some way like that, however I think my problem is I end up wallowing in the past trying to find something new that doesn't exist within it, but perhaps this is a faulty judging function instead of Si, though that's the area in which I wallow in.

    Edit. Even there I feel like I had a realization even though it feels as if I've made that same one several times. Perhaps I'm looking at functions that are too much in my conscious view and look more into the functions I don't think I use, but always do. Perhaps my epiphany is related more too Ni? I should look there as if it were an unconscious function. Would socionics be the best place to look?
    It might have something to do with your introverted judging function. I don't control where Si....if anything I probably have more control over Te than I do Si. I'm sure you don't control Ne, like I don't Si, but I have to put some conscious effort to rely on Ne, as it's not my first stop. If I was comfortable with my Si perception and had no interest in anything else, I could stop there, but if that answer isn't satisfying OR I simply want to explore my options for the sheer pleasure of not being tied down, I have to override my Si in favor of the choices that Ne bring. I think that's where I want to clarify what you're stating.

    I think people associate Si too rigidly with memory. I don't have to consciously commit something to memory for it to pop up somewhere down the line. I don't even have to pay much attention to something in front of me for me to be able to recall it later- a passing glance may be sufficient. I don't choose what to remember. There might be some underlying reason why I remember certain things more readily than others (like why I'll remember a face way better than a name), but memorizing for the sake of memory is an exercise that I have to put effort into, just like anyone else.

    ( Note: I normally talk in terms of sight, as it's the readily sense to associate with memory, but Si works well with any sense- smell, taste, touch, hearing)

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