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    I think out of both the Se is found to be the greatest asset for the Ne, because Extraverted Intuition needs to be aware of their immediate surroundings in order to make correct connections. It's a goal of mine to increase my Se at least to a usuable point so that I can get concrete information in the present to alter it into something new.

    Though Si is the best support for Ne because it needs to remember what to repeat and what not to repeat.

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    This is interesting. I'd like to find out how to get better at this myself. For example, I cook a lot. Even when I get great results, I'm not necessarily motivated to duplicate it. It seems to be a reflex to 'try a different way' but always with the desire to improve (or be clever).

    The memory exercises and detail-oriented activities sound like they could be useful but how does one squelch the knee-jerk reaction of "boring!" when attempting these tasks?

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    I'm beginning to think (for me anyway) that memorizing music might be a good way at making it interesting. It's complex and you would do your best to replicate the sounds you hear on any instrument you can find, or just the lyrics. If you made something into a song it may be easier to remember. I feel as if I heard that somewhere. I'm telling you now .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    No, we both still have to concentrate to make it happen.

    If I don't care about Si - meaning I know I can drive on autopilot and think about other things, and frequently don't give a shit about what's going on around me in the physical environment - I'm not going to use it strongly. I'm using Si to a degree to get from point A to point B, but not with any heightened sensory awareness.

    Your heightened sensory awareness gives you more detailed memory.
    Actually, I as a Si user don't have any special attentiveness to the physical environment, especially since I'm working primary Si. Like I said, if I see something it will cause a mental trigger that will take me places I've been (more likely than forward looking). I'm in the moment with driving to the degree necessary. The lighter the traffic, the less hazardous the road, the more likely I'm going to be someplace else.

    Like I mentioned before, I don't have to be overly aware of my surroundings. You and I can take a casual glance at something and it takes us different places; the only difference is that I can recall the details better than you can. Doesn't mean I looked at it any longer or any harder than you.

    I use whatever function is necessary to get things done. Some I have better use at than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    I'm beginning to think (for me anyway) that memorizing music might be a good way at making it interesting. It's complex and you would do your best to replicate the sounds you hear on any instrument you can find, or just the lyrics. If you made something into a song it may be easier to remember. I feel as if I heard that somewhere. I'm telling you now .

    I can listen to a song- let's say rap, where they use a lot of samples. I can usually pick up on the sample- what other song they used to make the new one. I don't commit the sample to memory.

    I also like to listen to music, and sometimes, instead of taking it as a whole, focus on one aspect (maybe the percussions, or strings, etc) to see how it's playing out. I have the ability to do both.

    I think that last part of your statement is an instance of Si....It's familiar, but you may not really be able to pinpoint it..... so maybe your Si isn't as 'inferior' as you think.

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    But wouldn't depth of Si be being able to remember certain instances that come to mind as a reference to this one? Would you consider a dominant, or aux even to have this lack of sensual depth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    But wouldn't depth of Si be being able to remember certain instances that come to mind as a reference to this one? Would you consider a dominant, or aux even to have this lack of sensual depth?
    I can understand your question a few ways...

    I can't always pinpoint the connection between what I see and where my mind takes me....Si's ability is not measured by how exact you are in your reference. A Si dom could say they 'remember' something and be totally wrong. (As I was typing this I went back to me an my ISFJ buddy who swore up and down that the supermarket at a certain intersection was X, but I knew it was Y. I knew I was right- and I was. As a matter of fact, his recollection a lot of times in these instances are very wrong, but I think it's due to his strenth of recollection of feelings, body language and all of that- stuff that I seem to miss. I'm more in tune to recalling information and actions. He'll remember more of how something was said, while I'll remember exactly what words were used.).

    It's just like a Ni dom who can be totally off with theirs- doesn't mean they suck at Ni.

    If that's not what you were asking, let me know.

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    That seems to pin my question down. The precision of Si is all about what judging function is being used with it. As for instance I try to pinpoint what exactly I remember, because of Ti. If I can figure out why I connected it the way I did I can get closer to the answer I'm looking for, with Fe it was the fact that he saw social gestures and remembered physical reactions, and with your Te you understood (Logistics to some point) about the location of the grocery store. Thank you for clearing that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    That seems to pin my question down. The precision of Si is all about what judging function is being used with it. As for instance I try to pinpoint what exactly I remember, because of Ti. If I can figure out why I connected it the way I did I can get closer to the answer I'm looking for, with Fe it was the fact that he saw social gestures and remembered physical reactions, and with your Te you understood (Logistics to some point) about the location of the grocery store. Thank you for clearing that up.
    You got it.

    As of lately I'm experimenting with SiFi.

    With tert Fi, I suck at translating my feelings and why. Really I don't think I've ever until I sat back and assessed my breakup with my ex last year. It wasn't until we broke up that I felt a sense of relief, but then when I really reflected, (Si like crazy- every and anything took me back to stuff between me and her) I realized that the real reason was my job, not my girl. Now I'm in the habit of assessing how I feel about something, at the same time building up my Si bank for reference. Ne comes into play once I am comfortable with a situation, especially when I'm not totally satisfied with my Si outlook.

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    I suppose that's what causes the appearance of security. You don't 'shake things up' until you've got a firm hold on the situation. Is your Ne usually always directed towards a task, you aren't likely to just come up with ideas on a wimb are you?

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